The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Catfish]

^ Either the money will again come from "us", the west, or ..

like Oberon said: maybe it would be better to leave the site as it is, as an excample of godless, senseless destruction, done by some lunatics thinking of themselves as self-appointed representatives of Allah.

I guess the latter together with a few textboards and photos before–after would be more educational, and have more punch.


There's certainly a second thing to remember. A lot of historical artifacts have been sold to private collectors, by Daesh. Like what happened with the content of museums in Iraq, during Operation Iraqui Freedom...

[ikalugin]

http://russiaworks.ru/
In case you were looking for more videos of stuff in Syria.

[Reece]

Shame the English symbol doesn't work!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Have read Skybirds answer, don't know how I should reply- I refuse to believe every=100 % of the Muslim in the world hate us=Christians and other religion.

Individual people. Ideology. Learn the difference.

The only question is to what degree people allow to get influenced and thus are motivated by the ideology. The more they follow Muhammad's ol' intentions indeed, the more dangerous and backwardly they are. The more they violate or distort it anyway, the greater the chance they indeed are humane and kind.

But the ideology itself is what it is.

Not all Germans were indeed believing Nazis. And not even all Nazis did strangle a Jew with their own hands. Still, Nazism itself is evil, racist, and murderous - no matter German manners and politeness. And Nazism was nevertheless a German issue, of German origin. Now you replace "German" with "Arab", and "Nazism" with "Islam", and you may get what I am after.

The global majority of Muslims is far more conservative and orthodox than your well-meaning heart is willing to realise.

Really. I'm tired of explaining this always again and again. Ideology, and what it does in people's heads, and what it does not when people ban it from their heads. Thats what I am always about. Since years. Rewriting the content of Islam - is no solution.

And are you really not aware that the rest of your post was kind of a contradiction to what you just said in your reference to me?

[Rockstar]

[U505995]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Indeed...

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Individual people. Ideology. Learn the difference.

Ok, I'll concede defeat here, I agree with you.

(repost Rockstars picture)

Problem is that you always word it like the Ahmed that tries to feed his family by selling kebab and burek is just going to step around the counter one day and cut my head off.

[mapuc]

I'm not perfect so know you know it.

Back to topic

Saw a short film from Raqqa on Danish News-They had "hide" many of the scenes from the video.

Even though they had covered some part of the Video it shocked me.

They interviewed a Muslim who said-they(ISIS) have no soul

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Really. I'm tired of explaining this always again and again.

Imagine how we feel.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Ok, I'll concede defeat here, I agree with you.

(repost Rockstars picture)

Problem is that you always word it like the Ahmed that tries to feed his family by selling kebab and burek is just going to step around the counter one day and cut my head off.

Depends on how short he is on meat I guess.

But yeah, I think another big part of it is how the individual views the ideology. Look at Tito, Mao and Stalin, all technically communists, all very different leaders.

Coming back briefly to Palmyra, I read a report earlier today that indicated that part of the reason that so much of it was intact was actually due to elements within the Syrian government persuading Daesh that it would be in their best interests to not level the place because doing so would likely cause a mass uprising that they could not defeat.
So, bravo, if that's the case, to the people who managed to pull that off.

Originally Posted by Betonov

Ok, I'll concede defeat here, I agree with you.

(repost Rockstars picture)

Problem is that you always word it like the Ahmed that tries to feed his family by selling kebab and burek is just going to step around the counter one day and cut my head off.

That sums it up quite accurately.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Ok, I'll concede defeat here, I agree with you.

(repost Rockstars picture)

Problem is that you always word it like the Ahmed that tries to feed his family by selling kebab and burek is just going to step around the counter one day and cut my head off.

Yeah, some ideologies have been so well established, like Islam and Christianity, we have to live with them, until some day in the future, civilization outgrows them. Unlike the Nazi ideology, Muslims have not invaded Poland and France with large armies... hmmm, unless you count the "refugee" crisis....

Oh boy.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, some ideologies have been so well established, like Islam and Christianity, we have to live with them, until some day in the future, civilization outgrows them.

This is making me think. We pride ourselves in our civilization and secularism.
Maybe, just maybe, the more people have to loose by going bonkers, the less they are to be indoctrinated.
I'd love to burn the local parish church down, but I can't garden in prison and I'd love to blow myself up in the middle of a Slovene right wing rally, but I want to see the rest of the Marvel movies before I die. I have too much to loose.
But some por sod that had his family and home bombed and his community thrown back to the middle ages would find some imams promises of an afterlife paradise quite tempting.
Before and at 9/11, those terrorist attacks were politically motivated and we're either used for revenge or as a leverage to obtain some goal (prisoner release etc.). This ''kill as many for no particular reason but allah'' didn't really reared up until Afganistan and Iraq. When a lot of por sods had their family and home bombed and their communities thrown back to the middle ages.

Home grown extremists in wealthy civilized areas ?? I don't know, bored spoiled brats with delusions of grandure and mental pacients.

[Onkel Neal]

No, there we disagree. There were plenty of bombings and suicide attacks in the ME before and after 9/11. You want to pinpoint a time for blame, how about 1948?

[MaDef]

I'm with Neal on this. You can't blame this all on the U.S. Alot of what is going on in the mid-east can be traced back to the end of WWII and the formation of the U.N. And if memory serves correctly, Great Britain, France, Germany, and the U.S.S.R (Today Russia) all played prominent roles at various times in fomenting discord in the region. The regional leaders themselves are very adept at playing their citizens against the "Great Satan" while still continuing to accept money and technology from the same "Great Satan".