The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

*Sigh*

Can't say it is surprising in the least and with the arrest of Abdeslam last week one starts to ponder if in a way this is related.

I would have thought so....a kind of payback or reminder to the authorities they/terrorists are still in the area.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Friends working at the airport and EU Parliament marked safe. That was a fun way to spend a Tuesday morning.

Nice one

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

They were worried about this happening right after the Paris attack.

I thought isis was looking for Abdeslam too due to his deciding to make a run for it.

They say the neighborhood he was caught in is full of his friends, but I bet someone turned him in for the reward.

The area he lived in is reported as not being a no-go area but rather a 'police or not welcome here' area.

What I have learned from the news channels this morning that astonishes me is the report that the Belgian security services are poorly organised....two areas, north and south speaking different languages amongst sixteen agencies and practically none or at the best very little contact with the intelligence or security services. In fact, it is being reported that the intelligence service seldom talk or liase with that of France but get most of their information from the UK intelligence agencies.

If the above is true then a radical overhaul of their structure and systems is urgently needed.

[Oberon]

Sadly these sort of attacks are pretty hard to prevent, you can remain vigilant and raid suspected houses but they only have to get lucky once whereas you have to be lucky all the time.
The anti-migrant parties will make hay from this, no mistake, they will do well and gain more followers out of it. In fact, they are probably the only people who benefit from attacks like this.

Anyway, that's enough of that talk from me, this is not really the time for it, and I apologise for branching off into it. For now, all we can do is watch and hope that this situation is resolved quickly and with as few casualties as possible.

[Skybird]

Belgium spent past years with looking at the other direction, reality-denial, and appeasement, assuming that monsters not looked at would seize to exist all by themselves. Not before Paris, the Belgians started to stare really hard into the dark corners. Too late - today Belgium crashed hard on the concrete ground of reality.

After the Paris attacks, a whole offensive, a series of attacks, had been announced by the ideology-of-peace-activists.

Not nice for the affected families. But certainly not unexpected.

Germany has a blossoming Salafist scene as well, and these guys also are highly dangerous, expanding rapidly and missionising successfully. What happened in Paris and Belgium, sooner or later will happen here, too.

Edit. Now 26 dead. More casualties are feared.

[HunterICX]

According to the Dutch news papers through kurdish sources they tell that ISIS claims responsibility for the attacks on Brussels.

[ikalugin]

Meanwhile Ukraine blames the attacks on Russia.

 

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Sadly these sort of attacks are pretty hard to prevent, you can remain vigilant and raid suspected houses but they only have to get lucky once whereas you have to be lucky all the time.
The anti-migrant parties will make hay from this, no mistake, they will do well and gain more followers out of it. In fact, they are probably the only people who benefit from attacks like this.

Anyway, that's enough of that talk from me, this is not really the time for it, and I apologise for branching off into it. For now, all we can do is watch and hope that this situation is resolved quickly and with as few casualties as possible.

You're right, liked how you just come right out and start making political hay anyway though. Then tell everyone else its not really the time to talk that.

If you really think something should not be talked about. Then don't.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

You're right, liked how you sneak it in there though then tell everyone else its not really the time to talk about.

I'm only human.

[Jimbuna]

BBC are quoting latest death toll at 28 with more expected

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

BBC are quoting latest death toll at 28 with more expected

Well, atleast it is not an air liner (more would have died then)

[Onkel Neal]

Ahh, damn. I know the people in Brussels and Europe are stricken by this attack, my heart and thoughts go out to them.

[Wildcat]

I don't see how this can be NON political

the entire attack itself is a political and religious statement by Islamic lunatics whom we are letting into our countries by the shipload each day.

Nobody can speak in absolutes but this attack probably wouldn't have happened if Europe was not taking in so many terrorists. The lunatics committing these atrocities against innocent people need to be kept out. How many more of these incidents will it take?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Look at what my hungarian friend has linked me. Those right wing fears are so fun.

Right-wing fears, I don't know. It's difficult to point out a growing change in culture and demographics without being attacked as xenophobic. I wonder Massasoit had critics to his immigration policies?

[Oberon]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I don't see how this can be NON political

the entire attack itself is a political and religious statement by Islamic lunatics whom we are letting into our countries by the shipload each day.

Nobody can speak in absolutes but this attack probably wouldn't have happened if Europe was not taking in so many terrorists. The lunatics committing these atrocities against innocent people need to be kept out. How many more of these incidents will it take?

While Euro intel services know for sure that and warn of - to their political masters' disgust - more and more experienced IS types are smuggling themselves into Europe via the mass migration currently hitting Europe, its also that many established Muslim organisations in Europe and Germany missionize aggressively amongst their local hosts and in migration camps as well and over the past years have often increased their numbers and the number of strike-willing recruits by several factors. Muslim lobby organisations still are busy with telling the public that Islam has nothing to do with it, and that identifying Islam behind the motivation of these strikers is "Islamophobia".

Terror attacks like now again are the more sensational spectaculum, no doubt. But the development towards more and more Islam-appeasing and knee-bowing, always done in the name of mutual understanding and multiculturalism, is far more dangerous. The evil on open display can be easily identified and pointed finger at, and nobody will dare to resist condemning it in loud pathetic rethorics. The silent shiftings towards embracing Islam more and more and tailoring our own homes and culture to bring them in line with more and more of Islam's rules and demands, is the far more lethal poison, and is much more difficult to rally support against.

I assume none of the victims' families and friends care to visit this or other forums currently, they have other things on their minds. None of what is written here will ever come to their attention, so all your condolences are in vain. Maybe you feel self-relieved for some reason I cannot understand, but your concern and empathy would have been better invested when investing it in advance into honest and straight confrontation of the always-appeasing Islamophiles and lobbyists and the political lunatics leading us deeper and deeper into a mess we hardly will escape from anymore. Thats why quite some of what is being given in condolences here, is hypocritical. The argument that "now is not the right time to talk" about certain politically unwanted arguments, is pointless. It seems it never is the right time for that.

But if not even in the wake of strikes like this - WHEN THEN...? Some fool on radio an hour ago already issued a statement once again that he fears that this undiscriminatory mass murder could increase discriminatory views against Muslims in Europe. Nice hierarchy of priorities there, man. Honestly said I think there are far more urgent issues to be solved than the precious sentiments of Muslims not wanting their faith beeing identified as the cause of bloodthirsty evil.

Its an undeclared war being waged against us. It does not matter whether we want it to be there or not. Its there.

Oh, I'm wrong there. It HAS been declared for sure. IS and others repeatedly said they would strike us in our own homes and countries. It IS a declared war.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I'm no fan of Trump, not at all, but that you think you must comment that statement with that smiley says more about yourself than the quote says something negative about Trump.