[REL] Squid launcher

LGN1 · 03-10-16, 03:48 PM

Great news, gap!

I have just sent you a pm!

Cheers, LGN1

gap · 03-11-16, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LGN1

Great news, gap!

I have just sent you a pm!

Cheers, LGN1

Thank you LGN1, I have read your pm. By the way, I took the liberty to advertise this project on the subsim FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2599.../?notif_t=like

Fahnenbohn · 03-12-16, 03:45 AM

Did you manage to create the animations of the 3 charges thrown in the airs ?

gap · 03-13-16, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Did you manage to create the animations of the 3 charges thrown in the airs ?

Charge animation will depend on how LGN1 will decide to set the squid launcher. If he will manage using the K-gun ccontrolle instead of the hedgehog one, there are good chances that the squid launcher can throw the right number of charges, and at the correct angles. In my model each of the three barrels has an elevation of 45 deg; the top and the bottom barrel are pointing right ahead, whereas the middle one has a rotation of ca. 6.5 deg on the vertical axis. Model bones should be set accordingly. The problem with k-guns is that they cant be used as forward-throwing weapons in game. If they are set like this, the AI can still fire them, but it wont hit amything. On the contrary, if the hedgehog controller is used, we lack control on the number of charges thrown, and we cannot set which trajectory each individual charge will follow

Fahnenbohn · 03-13-16, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

Charge animation will depend on how LGN1 will decide to set the squid launcher. If he will manage using the K-gun ccontrolle instead of the hedgehog one, there are good chances that the squid launcher can throw the right number of charges, and at the correct angles. In my model each of the three barrels has an elevation of 45 deg; the top and the bottom barrel are pointing right ahead, whereas the middle one has a rotation of ca. 6.5 deg on the vertical axis. Model bones should be set accordingly. The problem with k-guns is that they cant be used as forward-throwing weapons in game. If they are set like this, the AI can still fire them, but it wont hit amything. On the contrary, if the hedgehog controller is used, we lack control on the number of charges thrown, and we cannot set which trajectory each individual charge will follow

Yes, I understand. It's a big problem. In SH3, are the depth charges fired when the destroyer is above the submarine, or when the DC launcher is above it ?

tomfon · 03-14-16, 03:45 AM

I guess this is hard to tell since it depends on the destroyer's ability to determine the submarine's position correctly. It would be hard to know whether the destroyer has an accurate fix on the submarine.

Maybe it doesn't depend on the relative position of the two vessels, at all. Could it be that the destroyer drops its depth charges a few seconds after it loses contact with the submarine?

gap · 03-16-16, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Yes, I understand. It's a big problem. In SH3, are the depth charges fired when the destroyer is above the submarine, or when the DC launcher is above it ?

I see what you are getting at. This is an intetesting idea: if the game took thrower's and submarine's relative positions as reference for firing the DCs, we could move squid launcher's hardpoints (on the escort models) forward, and accordingly move throwers' nodes/meshes backwards. This way we could trick the game into using a k-gun as an hedgehog. Nonetheless, as noted by tomfon, it is possible that dc racks/k-gun's position on the ship are not considered at all. This can be discovered only by testing.

Fahnenbohn · 03-16-16, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

I see what you are getting at. This is an intetesting idea: if the game took thrower's and submarine's relative positions as reference for firing the DCs, we could move squid launcher's hardpoints (on the escort models) forward, and accordingly move throwers' nodes/meshes backwards. This way we could trick the game into using a k-gun as an hedgehog. Nonetheless, as noted by tomfon, it is possible that dc racks/k-gun's position on the ship are not considered at all. This can be discovered only by testing.

That's exactly what I mean.

03-14-16, 03:45 AM	#6
tomfon Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CK7662 Posts: 918 Downloads: 178 Uploads: 4	I guess this is hard to tell since it depends on the destroyer's ability to determine the submarine's position correctly. It would be hard to know whether the destroyer has an accurate fix on the submarine. Maybe it doesn't depend on the relative position of the two vessels, at all. Could it be that the destroyer drops its depth charges a few seconds after it loses contact with the submarine? __________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned." - Richard P. Feynman [1918/1988] "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan "You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays... There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it." - Greg Popovich Mods for SH3

03-10-16, 03:48 PM	#1
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Great news, gap! I have just sent you a pm! Cheers, LGN1

03-12-16, 03:45 AM	#3
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Did you manage to create the animations of the 3 charges thrown in the airs ?