Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The connection is that there is a large group of people here who consistently claim that the only solution to the gun problem is to ban all guns.

I haven't seen anyone in awhile saying that the solution is banning all guns.

By that logic we should also ban all cars, since cars are also involved in large numbers of deaths, many more than guns.

In 2013, cars killed "only" 168 people more compared to firearms:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

Don't know the figures for 2014 and 2015.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I disagree on that.
Also, I can't think of a single member here who said that, let alone "a large group".

Originally Posted by Dowly

I haven't seen anyone in awhile saying that the solution is banning all guns.

I'm not sure if it's a language problem or a viewpoint problem.

Then I said "here" I meant the United States, not SubSim. Think of it that way and maybe you'll begin to see the connection.

In 2013, cars killed "only" 168 people more compared to firearms

It doesn't matter if it's twice as many or half as many. If the only solution to the gun death problem is to ban all guns (as so many here in the United States claim), then why don't they also claim that only solution for the car death problem is to ban all cars? Goose and Gander?

Do you see the connection now?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm not sure if it's a language problem or a viewpoint problem.

Then I said "here" I meant the United States, not SubSim. Think of it that way and maybe you'll begin to see the connection.

That was indeed a language related problem, my apologies.

It doesn't matter if it's twice as many or half as many. If the only solution to the gun death problem is to ban all guns (as so many here in the United States claim), then why don't they also claim that only solution for the car death problem is to ban all cars? Goose and Gander?

Do you see the connection now?

I can see the connection, as you put it and I paraphrase, from the American POV.