I am back to hating people again: Baby dolphin killed for selfies

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I truly think that in the far far future when some alien is writing his/her/its dissertation on the history of our planet, that Homo Sapiens will not be considered one of the successful species of this planet.

Only if he/she/it chooses to tar an entire species based on the actions of a few of it's members and ignores all the good things we've done, like you're doing.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

Only if he/she/it chooses to tar an entire species based on the actions of a few of it's members and ignores all the good things we've done, like you're doing.

What good things would that be?

Clearly we have made self serving decisions that help our own species but at what cost?

Have we, as a species, ever made a decision that was not in our benefit but in the benefit of another part of our environment? I am sure we have, I just can't think of one.

Zoom out to a bigger picture than just our species. We are part of an environmental system despite any belief that our species is exceptional.

We over populate, consume resources at unsustainable levels. We pollute the very environment that we need to survive. All at the expense of other species. We are a disruption in nature. I think that is how we define an "invasive species".

Not only are we trashing this environment, we have become toxic even among our own species.

Sexual activity has to be tempered with fear that my own species can pass on diseases. People who prepare food have to wear gloves because if members of my own species touches my food I have a risk of getting sick. Those are not indicators of a successful species.

We may have done a lot of good, but that good is only from a self serving viewpoint.

And I am not claiming that I am any different. I am as much of the problem as everyone else.

I am not sure that our species is even capable of thinking outside of our species viewpoint. But perhaps there is hope.

I fervently hope we never obtain the technology that will allow us to invade another planet. We need to stay on this planet and either learn to live here or like other failed species, become extinct.

I am not sure that a third party observer would think differently.

But it is just my opinion.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

What good things would that be?

Clearly we have made self serving decisions that help our own species but at what cost?

Have we, as a species, ever made a decision that was not in our benefit but in the benefit of another part of our environment? I am sure we have, I just can't think of one.

Zoom out to a bigger picture than just our species. We are part of an environmental system despite any belief that our species is exceptional.

We over populate, consume resources at unsustainable levels. We pollute the very environment that we need to survive. All at the expense of other species. We are a disruption in nature. I think that is how we define an "invasive species".

Not only are we trashing this environment, we have become toxic even among our own species.

Sexual activity has to be tempered with fear that my own species can pass on diseases. People who prepare food have to wear gloves because if members of my own species touches my food I have a risk of getting sick. Those are not indicators of a successful species.

We may have done a lot of good, but that good is only from a self serving viewpoint.

And I am not claiming that I am any different. I am as much of the problem as everyone else.

I am not sure that our species is even capable of thinking outside of our species viewpoint. But perhaps there is hope.

I fervently hope we never obtain the technology that will allow us to invade another planet. We need to stay on this planet and either learn to live here or like other failed species, become extinct.

I am not sure that a third party observer would think differently.

But it is just my opinion.

Of course, it's all opinions here, but can you point to a species, any species, that is any less self serving than ours? Because if you can't then these third party observers, if they exist, aren't likely to be any different in that regard.