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Old 02-11-16, 12:53 AM   #1
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I can only answer part of your question since I'm not running NYGM. I have 2 monitors though and no problems with the mod rendering (of course SH3 only runs on the main monitor).

I've also run it from the main SH3.exe and from SH3C. No problems with it.

I'm using it on top of LSH2015 right now. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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Old 02-28-16, 11:17 PM   #2
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Is there a guide anywhere on how to use the AOB range finder ring properly? I'm getting really weird results. And it looks different than the tool in MaGUI.

All of my measurements are off by a lot. Are the tic marks in the scopes calibrated properly for this resolution? Are the optics adjusted? Am I supposed to take the measurements at max zoom or min zoom?

When I take a range with the wheel, it's always about half of what the stadimeter on the notepad gives me. So I counted started dividing the tic marks by 2 which got my range close enough... still my AOB and Speed readings are way off.

Can anyone help?

Oh and the flag reference isn't showing up for me either.

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Old 02-29-16, 02:14 AM   #3
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Is there a guide anywhere on how to use the AOB range finder ring properly? I'm getting really weird results. And it looks different than the tool in MaGUI.

All of my measurements are off by a lot. Are the tic marks in the scopes calibrated properly for this resolution? Are the optics adjusted? Am I supposed to take the measurements at max zoom or min zoom?

When I take a range with the wheel, it's always about half of what the stadimeter on the notepad gives me. So I counted started dividing the tic marks by 2 which got my range close enough... still my AOB and Speed readings are way off.

Can anyone help?
For the range readings, you must multiply the mast height x2 when using the AOB rings. This is how it was in the beginning until some mods started doing the multiplication within the recognition manual itself. This is not the case here. So Mast Height *2, then read the range from the middle disk, and 'yes', measurements are at max zoom.

For speed, I believe the mark is in the wrong spot. Try reading the speed at about 57° on the inner ring. I believe that the lines are not calibrated correctly. - I noted this a couple posts earlier.

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Oh and the flag reference isn't showing up for me either.
Flag reference is drag not hover IIRC. Did you try dragging it onto the screen from the Flaggen tab? It's possible I'm mistaken since I can't check the UI right now. <- confirmed, didn't want to fire it up since now I won't be sleeping for the next few hours. lol.

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Old 02-29-16, 12:19 PM   #4
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Thanks for the tips!

I feel like a retard not attempting to drag the flag reference :/.

When calculating speed, do I double the ship's length also? And when calculating AOB, do I count the tic marks through the entire length of the ship, or only on one side of the scope? I remember this varied depending on the mod.
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Old 02-29-16, 04:22 PM   #5
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Thanks for the tips!

I feel like a retard not attempting to drag the flag reference :/.

When calculating speed, do I double the ship's length also?
Oh don't feel bad, we've all done something like that. Do not double ship's length when calculating speed. Just use the 57 degree mark to read it and you should be good.

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And when calculating AOB, do I count the tic marks through the entire length of the ship, or only on one side of the scope? I remember this varied depending on the mod.
IIRC, you have to use the whole ships length, so all tick marks. It does vary by mod (well how they have the degree scale set up). This one is 1:1 (height and width) so use the full length of the ship when counting tick marks.

Glad to be of help and good hunting!
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Old 02-29-16, 09:45 PM   #6
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I'm still getting weird AOB results. Here is what I do.

First I measure range by counting the tic marks to the reference point on the ship. Then I align that value on the mid inner dial to the 90 degree mark on the inner ring. Then I look up the ship's mast height * 2 on the outer ring and check the range corresponding to it on the mid outer dial.

Then to get the AOB, I align the range value on the mid outer dial with the ship's length on the outer ring... then I count the horizontal tics along the ship's entire length. Then I find that value on the mid inner dial and look up the AOB corresponding to it on the inner ring.

The problem is that the tic mark value is always above the 90 degree mark so there is nothing to read there.

I must be doing something wrong here.
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Old 02-29-16, 11:11 PM   #7
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I'm still getting weird AOB results. Here is what I do.

First I measure range by counting the tic marks to the reference point on the ship. Then I align that value on the mid inner dial to the 90 degree mark on the inner ring. Then I look up the ship's mast height * 2 on the outer ring and check the range corresponding to it on the mid outer dial.

Then to get the AOB, I align the range value on the mid outer dial with the ship's length on the outer ring... then I count the horizontal tics along the ship's entire length. Then I find that value on the mid inner dial and look up the AOB corresponding to it on the inner ring.

The problem is that the tic mark value is always above the 90 degree mark so there is nothing to read there.

I must be doing something wrong here.
That one is my fault, trying to do it from memory. I just checked and it's half the length tics. So I used the tics on the right hand side with the ship locked.

I use the Naval Academy > Torpedo mission to check my calculations. I know the stationary ship is around 800m away and around 36 degrees starboard (green) AOB.

So whenever I'm checking a UI and the rings, that's where I go with it.

Sorry about that.
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