Breaking Oregon Militia Occupies Federal Building

[Buddahaid]

No it isn't. There have been countless dickstarter campaigns throughout history without end, or happy ending.

[Platapus]

Just as a ribbon has become a widely used symbol for support, I think we as a nation should adopt the "box o' dicks" as a symbol of ridicule.

The best thing we can do against these nutters is ridicule them. It drives them crazy

"But but but you have to take us seriously!!!'

"Sure, here is your "box o' dicks" now go home".

[Armistead]

I think for them to do time sentenced and released, for only a judge to say they didn't meet the min sentence requirement is a joke.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

It is my understanding that there are state and federal agents on that site also.

Whatever one may think of these bozo's this was still a political protest. Of course they should pay for any damage they do to the place but maybe forcing them to pay for the governments over reaction should be seen as a tax upon free speech.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

Whatever one may think of these bozo's this was still a political protest. Of course they should pay for any damage they do to the place but maybe forcing them to pay for the governments over reaction should be seen as a tax upon free speech.

I think it is going to be a moot point as

1. They ain't got no money
2. They don't pay the bills they already have levied against them.

So yeah, it is futile.

[Oberon]

Well, surely they've got charges of B&E, trespass and possibly seditious conspiracy sitting on file ready to be put towards them whenever the local law enforcement feel like it.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, surely they've got charges of B&E, trespass and possibly seditious conspiracy sitting on file ready to be put towards them whenever the local law enforcement feel like it.

The first two for sure but the last only if the government wants to turn them into martyrs for the very thing that they're protesting. Now i'm sure that with all the undercover FBI agents who have infiltrated their encampment any such treasonous talk will have been documented and reported but unless it's egregious I doubt that they would pursue it. We'll see though. One can't overestimate the governments capacity for stupidity.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

The first two for sure but the last only if the government wants to turn them into martyrs for the very thing that they're protesting. Now i'm sure that with all the undercover FBI agents who have infiltrated their encampment any such treasonous talk will have been documented and reported but unless it's egregious I doubt that they would pursue it. We'll see though. One can't overestimate the governments capacity for stupidity.

True, it would be best to let the last one slide, and just hope that the abject failure of this uprising discourages any other such couch militia from trying a stunt like it. At least this time it was in the middle of nowhere and an empty building, last thing the US needs is another McVeigh being encouraged.

But, that being said, it's election year this year, and I dare say if Bernie gets in then there'll be all kinds of angry talk, same with Hillary really.
And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cruz or Trump gets in if someone on the left did something stupid too. Polarisation breeds radicalisation.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

True, it would be best to let the last one slide, and just hope that the abject failure of this uprising discourages any other such couch militia from trying a stunt like it. At least this time it was in the middle of nowhere and an empty building, last thing the US needs is another McVeigh being encouraged.

When you think about it the governments response isn't all that much different than the way they treated the Occupy movement a few years ago. Who knows, maybe the Feds actually learned something after Waco and Ruby Ridge.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

When you think about it the governments response isn't all that much different than the way they treated the Occupy movement a few years ago. Who knows, maybe the Feds actually learned something after Waco and Ruby Ridge.

We can only hope. Sadly, I suspect it won't be long before we have an answer.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Oberon

We can only hope. Sadly, I suspect it won't be long before we have an answer.

Well here's an answer of sorts.

The Guardian


The standoff with armed militia in Oregon escalated on Friday after police swooped in on one of the protesters to make the first arrest in connection with the two-week occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.
Kenneth Medenbach, who was arrested for unauthorized use of a government vehicle, is a chainsaw sculptor and longtime nemesis of the government with a history of previous entanglements with the courts over the occupation of federal lands.
He is the first militiaman connected to the armed occupation to be arrested since the bird sanctuary in rural Oregon was unexpectedly taken over on 2 January.
Medenbach, 62, was detained outside a Safeway supermarket in Burns, Oregon, some 30 miles from the Malheur national wildlife refuge, according to a statement from the Harney County sheriff’s office.

Source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ore...1m8?li=BBnb7Kz

[August]

Driving a stolen government plated van 60 miles away from the stand off. He was asking to be arrested.

[razark]

Oh yeah. This is still happening.

Federal authorities arrested Ammon Bundy, the leader of a group of protesters occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, and several of his followers in a traffic stop Tuesday, a law enforcement official told CNN.
Shots were fired after authorities made the stop, the source said. It's not clear who fired first.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/us/ore...sts/index.html

[Oberon]

Allegedly someone was also killed during the operation. At least that's what the Beebs breaking news is saying.

A pity that this happened, I guess someone's patience ran out.

EDIT: Seems as though it happened at an FBI traffic stop, shots were fired and one of the 'Yallqaeda' members was killed. It's unknown who fired first.

[Torplexed]

The locals have been some putting pressure on law enforcement for some days now to end this wing-ding circus. Looks like it worked.

They fought the law and the law won.