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Old 12-12-15, 09:49 PM   #1
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Well. I run SH4 15 with this TMO 27. It seems the version 20. Not includes patch to TMO 22. It seems Duci sent you a TMO 20 and could there be some changes. No Nisgeis 3D TDC and new radar. Could be a beta over TMO 20. Environment is that on TMO 20/22.

I didn't see any significant change to call this mod a new TMO 27.

Only my first impression.

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Old 12-13-15, 12:57 PM   #2
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Well. I run SH4 15 with this TMO 27. It seems the version 20. Not includes patch to TMO 22. It seems Duci sent you a TMO 20 and could there be some changes. No Nisgeis 3D TDC and new radar. Could be a beta over TMO 20. Environment is that on TMO 20/22.

I didn't see any significant change to call this mod a new TMO 27.

Only my first impression.

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The same thoughts as Fitzcarraldo here. It seems to be 2.0. I have 2.0, 2.2, & 2.5 installed, (for comparison purposes) and now this version.

I think TMO 2.5 with the small_patch, plus an environmental mod like ISE v2 (not v3 : ) with the ISE realistic colors is better... plus 2.5 has the option to play the TAMBOR campaign (The 'Terrible T') which I really like.

Ducimus really has a very nice (imo) campaign in 2.5 that many people miss out on because they think they 'need' RSRD. Like Ducimus said, 'if you don't like his campaign try RSRD'.
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Old 12-13-15, 05:47 PM   #3
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Well. I run SH4 15 with this TMO 27. It seems the version 20. Not includes patch to TMO 22. It seems Duci sent you a TMO 20 and could there be some changes. No Nisgeis 3D TDC and new radar. Could be a beta over TMO 20. Environment is that on TMO 20/22.

I didn't see any significant change to call this mod a new TMO 27.

Only my first impression.

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VERY interesting. So this might actually be a regression from TMO 2.5?
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Old 12-13-15, 06:15 PM   #4
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VERY interesting. So this might actually be a regression from TMO 2.5?
Could be. But eliminate the Nisgeis stuff don't seem Ducimus style.

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Old 12-13-15, 07:45 PM   #5
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I agree totally. I looked at all the Balao submarine files and the modification dates on the 2.7 version are all older than those on 2.5. At this point I can't recommend replacing 2.5 with 2.7, especially with the loss of Nisgeis' great work. I'm going to have to research exactly how I got the file and backtrack for clues here.

In the meantime, I sure wouldn't be jumping out of 2.5 into 2.7.

This is from the Kickinback ftp server, to which I have lost the logon information I need to research further. Nobody is around kickinback.com, where most of this modding used to take place. It was the place where Nisgeis developed the 3D TDC and Ducimus integrated it into TMO. They were very hot on that project and I know Ducimus wouldn't have subsequently abandoned it.

I have an old backup of my XP machine that might still have the info I need but nowhere to restore it to right now to check that out. Wonder what gymnastics I'd need to go through to convince Acronis True Image to install that in a virtual machine? Could be very interesting......

And equally interesting is why the version 2.7 number was on this apparently older version of TMO aboard the kickinback ftp server.

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