World war two in a modern version

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I guess Russia gets Belorussia and Ukraine in your scenario and then fights it out with Germany on land. Is there a nuclear dimention? If we are talking about WW2 style combat, is Berlin nuked on the first day of war?

That's up to the person who create all these scenarios and it's up to the player.

A little more about my Idea

The countries will be as they are today-It will not be as it was in 1939-1945

It will be a long "novel" before the first scenario and it will be a short story before each story

In my idea the breakdown of EU is, let say May 2018/19 and the war starts, not directly after, but some years later perhaps 2029(September of course) Or maybe later so the war start 100 years after.

Lets go back to Russia, we know from History that the German could see moscow-but will the player who play this scenario manage to get so far and can he or she do what the German couldn't- take moscow

A huge military build-up in Germany will of course take place after the Breakdown in EU.

if there is to be used Nuke-Well that's again up to the player and the computer-(Don't know if that's possible-E.g the opponent is very near to lose, will the computer send Nuke against the player)

WWII all over again-with Modern weapon a.s.o

Markus

[ikalugin]

First of all - nuclear weapons make the scenario impossible. Germany could not rapidly nuclearise due to the lack of relevant industries. If it does it could not nuclearise at the same rate as Russia does.
Should the strategic nuclear balance be skewed the way it is now (between Russia and Germany or Germany and the France+UK for that matter) the response to the mass invasion and/or existential threat (because German invasion of USSR during WW2 was an existential threat to Soviet people) then it would be rational to immidietely employ tactical and then strategic weapons in mass. This is what the nuclear weapons are there for - deterence.

Secondly - modern Armed Forces precludes large formations due to the costs (especially manpower). This means that deep, sustained land operations would occur in the environment without a front, with open strategic and most likely operational level flanks, in a largerly hostile area with hostile and well armed population.

There are reasons why WW2 (or WW1) would not repeat itself.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

First of all - nuclear weapons make the scenario impossible. Germany could not rapidly nuclearise due to the lack of relevant industries. If it does it could not nuclearise at the same rate as Russia does.
Should the strategic nuclear balance be skewed the way it is now (between Russia and Germany or Germany and the France+UK for that matter) the response to the mass invasion and/or existential threat (because German invasion of USSR during WW2 was an existential threat to Soviet people) then it would be rational to immidietely employ tactical and then strategic weapons in mass. This is what the nuclear weapons are there for - deterence.

Secondly - modern Armed Forces precludes large formations due to the costs (especially manpower). This means that deep, sustained land operations would occur in the environment without a front, with open strategic and most likely operational level flanks, in a largerly hostile area with hostile and well armed population.

There are reasons why WW2 (or WW1) would not repeat itself.

I haven't been thinking so deep into whats possible or whats not possible It was an idea of a campaing containing many scenarios, such as a German attack on Russia, The Invasion of Normandy etc etc but in a future world with modern weapons.

"There are reasons why WW2 (or WW1) would not repeat itself" not in a fictional world as in CMANO

Thanks a lot for your answers

Markus

[mapuc]

A little more about my idea

The Creator of these scenarios

Make the same "start point"

Example

The German troops etc are placed almost in same position as in 1939(If possible)before the attack signal is given

The Normandy scenario
Same place of area where the invasion toke place and they start from almost same point as in 1944.

All these scenarios-how they end-thats up to the player
The same with the other famous WWII battle.

Markus

[mapuc]

Some other things

Germany reintroduce military service

brief summary about how I would imagine the story up to the first shot in this "WWII all over again"

2019/2021, Somewhere between these 3 years, most of the German Bundestag is killed in a air crash, even the Chancellor, Minister of Interior, Minister of Defense is among the dead. An extra election is held and a new unknown man enter the political scene

His politics is very right wing.

Some year later-England, France, Poland, Denmark, Norway-who in my story became member of EU in 2018, and some other country, leave EU, because of this new German leader.

Germany, Spain, Sweden and some other country stay and try to keep EU together-Some years later-This fail

Some year later-Germany, Italy, Romania +3-4 other country leave NATO, not so long after Germany ask USA, England and France to withdraw their troops who's on German ground. And Germany reintroduce military service

Not so long after
Germany and those who left NATO create a new political and military alliance

About the campaign and the scenarios

These Idea I have, I don't know if its possible

Germany-Poland crisis/war-this could very well be a 2-part scenario, where the player will be tasked with 5-10 assignments and when they have been has been obtained. the next 5-10 task is given and the player can't play part number 2 and/or 3 before these task(points)has been reached
(in part two-the declaration of war will come from England and France)

So that was the storyline idea of the way to the first shot and who I imagine who the player is given task in the scenario.

Markus