Europe's migrant problem - Page 32

Betonov · 10-30-15, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Aaaand that matters because........?

He's not black.
So he needs to, you know...

...compensate

10-30-15, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

He's not black.
So he needs to, you know...

...compensate

Exactly... because you know:
Once you go black.... your parents don't talk to you anymore.

Betonov · 10-30-15, 01:34 PM

Forget racial purity, I have a half jew, half black inlaw from Montana that can make a burger worth having a heart attack over

Hitman · 10-30-15, 02:28 PM

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The claim risen that she acts on grounds of humanitarian considerations, is not just absurd, but an offence for the many victims of the past regime and the immense collateral damage she now causes in Germany in the past ten years. Merkel never has solved anything. She just sits still and flattens everybody until he cannot breathe anymore. She does so with the EU. Wioth the Euro. With our problems with the "Energiewende". Infrastructure. And now the mass migration he has directly triggered. All for securing her in office.

So what's her objective then? From your message I understand she is a propaganda expert ready to make the public swallow whatever she wants. Why did she in this case put the machinery to work for people to accept such a big amount of inmigrants instead of the opposite? What do you think is she trying to do by flooding germany with syrians and whoever gets there in the same wave?

Schroeder · 10-30-15, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

So what's her objective then? From your message I understand she is a propaganda expert ready to make the public swallow whatever she wants. Why did she in this case put the machinery to work for people to accept such a big amount of inmigrants instead of the opposite? What do you think is she trying to do by flooding germany with syrians and whoever gets there in the same wave?

It might be to combat demographic changes. We have a lot of older people and only few young ones. Maybe she tries to compensate that with a flood of mainly young immigrants.

Skybird · 10-30-15, 04:46 PM

The argument she did it for demographic reasons probably is as uncorrect as the one she did it to get in workers. The myth that all those peopole can easily be integrate dinto the job market fopr those high educaion and expert jobs that are needed, has repatedöly been rebunked by now.

She did it - for the EU, to ease off pressure accumulating at the Hungarian border, and deflecting it from pointing against EU integrity - by Germany inhaling it.

As was the case with all poltical pürojects she has touched, exactly the opposite has come out of it. Like with her Euro man agement. like her energy turnhj management. Like with her climate policy management.

She never has realistic solution, just headjumps Germany into somethign, and then sits still, and leaves it to others,and watches while thigns get worse and worse. So it is with the Euro. So it is with greece. So it is with our energy change policy. With our climate protection policy.

Her illusions and misled judgements cost us hundreds of millions and erode Germany's integrity and competitiveness. We are loosing on all fronts and have been coming under pressure everywhere.

Sop this time it is abo9ut saving the EU from getting split about migration. Well, open your eyes and see what has come out of this. Do the math on what this means for Germany in demographic changes and financial costs.

But we can sit assure of one thing. In her words: things the decides are "without alternative". Or in former Eastern block language: the party is always right.

eddie · 10-31-15, 12:53 PM

A small village in Germany, Sumte, has 102 people living there. They are about to get 750 immigrants moving in. Where are they going to put them?

"Sumte has no shops, no police station, no school and only one bus passes through each day. The initial number of arrivals was, in fact, reduced to avoid straining the local sewage system and give time for new pumps to be installed."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ers/ar-BBmF2th

If trouble starts up, what are the locals supposed to do, when outnumbered 7-1?

Fahnenbohn · 11-01-15, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by eddie

If trouble starts up, what are the locals supposed to do, when outnumbered 7-1?

I think we have only one solution : open concentration camps (not extermination camps, they never exist) to make them work for us. After all, they are illegally in Europe. Freedom of the human person doesn't allow them to violate national laws.

WE make the laws in OUR country. Nobody and nothing has the right to impose us all these illegal immigrants. Else, this is tyranny !

Schroeder · 11-01-15, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

I think we have only one solution : open concentration camps (not extermination camps, they never exist) to make them work for us. After all, they are illegally in Europe. Freedom of the human person doesn't allow them to violate national laws.

WE make the laws in OUR country. Nobody and nothing has the right to impose us all these illegal immigrants. Else, this is tyranny !

They are not illegally in Germany. We have a right for asylum.

Betonov · 11-01-15, 04:51 AM

Camps are not a bad idea.
Locals would be isolated from the troublemaking part of the migrants and migrants would be isolated from the more fringe elements of the local population. Camps would be heated with medical facilities, give them a chance to grow their own food and would give us more time to separate the war refugees from economic migrants and to pick out engineers and doctors we'd want for our needs.
Send the economic migrants home, let the refugees weather out the storm and take in the engineers/doctors.

And house rules, rioteers will be shipped directly to ISIL, complainers will be ignored.

Meanwhile in Slovenia: they managed to build a train station near one of the entry points for easier loading and transportation to registration centers. In a few days no less. It took 2 years to fix 5km of rail line and they built a station in 2 days ?????
We need to put more refugees along some rail lines.

Fahnenbohn · 11-01-15, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Camps are not a bad idea.
Locals would be isolated from the troublemaking part of the migrants and migrants would be isolated from the more fringe elements of the local population. Camps would be heated with medical facilities, give them a chance to grow their own food and would give us more time to separate the war refugees from economic migrants and to pick out engineers and doctors we'd want for our needs.
Send the economic migrants home, let the refugees weather out the storm and take in the engineers/doctors.

In fact, there are very a few immigrants that are real war refugees. Most of them are economic immigrants. And that's inacceptable in both situations. Why ? Because most of them are young men. During WWII, Europeans didn't escape, but they fought with a rifle in the hands. And for economic immigrants, if they want a better way of life, they had to work in their own country to improve it, and not come in Europe to live as parasites. That's clear enough ?

And for taking the foreign engineers/doctors out of their country, I disagree. They are essential in their own country. If you take the elite of one country, so you have to welcome all the population too, else this is theft.

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Oh my God, this is so incredibly stupid.

Not so stupid (see Betonov post), but yes, this is not the best solution. This is the solution if european governments don't refuse to let come all these immigrants. The solutions have to be found in the immigrants' countries.

Betonov · 11-01-15, 06:47 AM

You know, if there's so little actual refugees then that means that most Syrians stayed and fought.
That means your 'noble european'' rhetoric is not that special.

Betonov · 11-01-15, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Not so stupid (see Betonov post), but yes, this is not the best solution. This is the solution if european governments don't refuse to let come all these immigrants. The solutions have to be found in the immigrants' countries.

I wasn't agreeing with you.
My idea is to shelter them, register them, weed out the troublemakers and then pick out those that would benefit Europe, which can go into thousands. Which means give them visas and welcome to Europe cards.

Your idea was to lock them up.

11-01-15, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Not so stupid

Yes, incredibly stupid.
You were calling refugees illegal immigrants, going all nazi-ho on the whole topic (there have been no death-camps, really now?) and don't even know the laws you are trying to defend so eagerly with your hate-mongering about people you don't know.

Fahnenbohn · 11-01-15, 09:02 AM

You are not able to understand, you are too much brainwashed by TV and school ...

Sorry to say that but you can't change your mind, because you are terrified by the allied war propaganda against Germany.

When I said concentration camps, it was not serious from me. But I expected your reactions. Very concluding ... Pavlovian reflex .... nazi, hate, (not complotist too ? lol) and blablabla ...

And last word : we are not speaking about "thousands" people, but several millions people ! So, stopping this invasion is self-defense. OK ?

10-30-15, 04:46 PM	#471
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,767 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The argument she did it for demographic reasons probably is as uncorrect as the one she did it to get in workers. The myth that all those peopole can easily be integrate dinto the job market fopr those high educaion and expert jobs that are needed, has repatedöly been rebunked by now. She did it - for the EU, to ease off pressure accumulating at the Hungarian border, and deflecting it from pointing against EU integrity - by Germany inhaling it. As was the case with all poltical pürojects she has touched, exactly the opposite has come out of it. Like with her Euro man agement. like her energy turnhj management. Like with her climate policy management. She never has realistic solution, just headjumps Germany into somethign, and then sits still, and leaves it to others,and watches while thigns get worse and worse. So it is with the Euro. So it is with greece. So it is with our energy change policy. With our climate protection policy. Her illusions and misled judgements cost us hundreds of millions and erode Germany's integrity and competitiveness. We are loosing on all fronts and have been coming under pressure everywhere. Sop this time it is abo9ut saving the EU from getting split about migration. Well, open your eyes and see what has come out of this. Do the math on what this means for Germany in demographic changes and financial costs. But we can sit assure of one thing. In her words: things the decides are "without alternative". Or in former Eastern block language: the party is always right. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-31-15, 12:53 PM	#472
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	A small village in Germany, Sumte, has 102 people living there. They are about to get 750 immigrants moving in. Where are they going to put them? "Sumte has no shops, no police station, no school and only one bus passes through each day. The initial number of arrivals was, in fact, reduced to avoid straining the local sewage system and give time for new pumps to be installed." http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ers/ar-BBmF2th If trouble starts up, what are the locals supposed to do, when outnumbered 7-1? __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone Last edited by eddie; 10-31-15 at 12:59 PM.

10-30-15, 01:34 PM	#468
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Forget racial purity, I have a half jew, half black inlaw from Montana that can make a burger worth having a heart attack over

11-01-15, 04:51 AM	#475
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Camps are not a bad idea. Locals would be isolated from the troublemaking part of the migrants and migrants would be isolated from the more fringe elements of the local population. Camps would be heated with medical facilities, give them a chance to grow their own food and would give us more time to separate the war refugees from economic migrants and to pick out engineers and doctors we'd want for our needs. Send the economic migrants home, let the refugees weather out the storm and take in the engineers/doctors. And house rules, rioteers will be shipped directly to ISIL, complainers will be ignored. Meanwhile in Slovenia: they managed to build a train station near one of the entry points for easier loading and transportation to registration centers. In a few days no less. It took 2 years to fix 5km of rail line and they built a station in 2 days ????? We need to put more refugees along some rail lines.

11-01-15, 06:47 AM	#477
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	You know, if there's so little actual refugees then that means that most Syrians stayed and fought. That means your 'noble european'' rhetoric is not that special.

11-01-15, 09:02 AM	#480
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	You are not able to understand, you are too much brainwashed by TV and school ... Sorry to say that but you can't change your mind, because you are terrified by the allied war propaganda against Germany. When I said concentration camps, it was not serious from me. But I expected your reactions. Very concluding ... Pavlovian reflex .... nazi, hate, (not complotist too ? lol) and blablabla ... And last word : we are not speaking about "thousands" people, but several millions people ! So, stopping this invasion is self-defense. OK ?