Fresh Install of SH3 is a No Go with 8.1

THEBERBSTER · 10-28-15, 04:43 AM

Never install any Silent Hunter version in the default program (x86) folder.

Peter

danasan · 10-28-15, 05:55 AM

Gary,

here is a workaround for those who don't want any 3rd party tools or don't want to read the whole day...

First of all, I'd like you to understand that there is NO need to install SH3, once you have it installed on just ONE computer.

That said, I haven't used the original game DVD for years now. I just copied the whole folder of a SH3 vanilla installation on an old computer, zipped it, and burnt it on a DVD. I can always start from that DVD by copying the content to my HDD.

So, if you have access to a computer with an older OS, install SH3 there.

-Verify if the game runs fine. After that:
-Copy the whole SH3 folder to an external HDD \ Stick \ whatever.
-Past the folder to your HDD with WIN 8.1, f.x. to the root of C:\
-You'd better name that folder f.x.: SilentHunter3 without any blanks.
-Find the SH3.exe in that folder there and set admin rights and compatibility to XP or WIN 7.

You should be done now. This method is safe, fast (depending on the medium you have your copy on) and independent.

Edit for clarification: If you zipped the folder, you have to unzip it, of course.

Onkel Neal · 10-28-15, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Never install any Silent Hunter version in the default program (x86) folder.

Peter

Quote:

Originally Posted by HW3

Gary, do not install it inside of the Program Files (x86) folder. Make a games folder on the main C drive. Windows UAC program has fits if we try using the Programs folders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Something else you might try is to create a folder outside of any Program Files. Newer versions of Windows don't like us using the Program Files folders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danasan

Gary,
here is a workaround for those who don't want any 3rd party tools or don't want to read the whole day...
First of all, I'd like you to understand that there is NO need to install SH3, once you have it installed on just ONE computer....

Thanks for the respectful and patient replies to Gary's question, you guys are awesome. You are the superstars Subsim is known for.

Gary, don't feel bad, that's a common mistake. I know about it and I sometimes forget. I guess the routine process of installing programs can be exactly that, routine. Except in some odd cases, it has to be done differently, such as in this case. Please let us know if you were successful in getting SH3 installed.

danasan · 10-28-15, 07:29 AM

@ Blitz,

believe me, I'm not misunderstanding anything here.

I am not going to quote Kpt. Lehman here.

GT182 · 10-28-15, 06:19 PM

Ok, so you all know. I did not try to install in the Programs (x86) folder. That was a senior moment in typing. My mind was going in circles when I posted this thread. I apologize. I did make a Games folder on C drive and it was not in any folder... it was on it's own. It is possible I had a corrupt download of the 1.4b patch as my broadband was all screwed up. That's now fixed.

I tend to go with Sailor Steve's response on my 2005 SH3 dvd. I'm off and on my way down cellar to look for the later SH3 dvds I bought that don't have Starforce in them. At least I believe and hope they don't. I'll let you know as soon as I find them

As to all your replies, my thanks. I took no one's reply in a derogatory way. You all have been very helpful and it made me think. Remember now, when SH3 came out I waited until the 1.4b patch came out before I installed it. At one time I could do the install blindfolded. But that was while we all were using XP. It's sad that MS has forgotten about us all and came out with operating systems that are giving most out there headaches trying to play these older games and simulations. I am one of those. Believe me, it's hell forgetting what I thought I knew new so well, and having to put up with the changes these new operating systems have dumped on us all.

And Oliver, your Guide is fine as it is. I understood it. SH3 didn't. LOL

Dan, I wish I had it on another computer I could take it from. That I would do in a heartbeat.

to you all. And my thanks to Oliver and Dave. Besides Neal and SubSim, the two of you and got me re-interested in SH3, along with the new mods that have been made.

Edit:
BTW.. don't say it's solved just yet.

GT182 · 10-28-15, 07:09 PM

No luck on a newer version of SH3 without Starforce. It's buried in a box somewhere or I gave it away to someone that wanted to play SH3.

So, if anyone has a copy without Starforce in it and willing to sell it, I'm very interested it buying it.

Edit:
Found a copy on Amazon but waiting for a reply as to the date it was made, and if Starforce is not included on the dvd.

Admiral Halsey · 10-29-15, 01:44 AM

I must be lucky but i've got almost all my games in the default X86 folder and they not only work just fine but mods work just fine as well. Never had any of the problems people seem to have with it. The only games I don't have there are games like SH3 where one needs multiple folders to work the mega-mods.

blackswan40 · 10-29-15, 02:49 AM

GT182 I have a spare SH3 DISC already patched to 1.4 no star force and once installed you dont need the dvd in your drive
just pm me your home address & ill send you the disc

THE PRIDE RUNS DEEP AT SUBSIM WE LOOK AFTER OUR OWN SALUTE

chu888 · 11-14-15, 08:38 AM

Hi guys,

I face the problem on SH3 in Windows 10! I've done many times for reinstall. After re-installing, it seems unstable and always be kicked out back to desk top during play! So, what I guess is, install the SH3 before you upgrade to Windows 10.
I'm saying it because I do get the experience of SH4, which already in my drive before O/S upgrade. Now I do playing it smoothly without problem after upgraded to Windows 10.
But I do love SH3, this is the best sub simulator for me, much better then SH4 & 5.
I wish that SH3 could issue Windows 10 version, those problems should be fixed I think.

aguycalledmonte · 11-20-15, 07:34 PM

doy uo guys know where i can find a safe copy of 1.4b? i went to your post blitskreig and took the link to download 1.4b.....only to have an installer that says its for 1.3...any help?

10-28-15, 04:43 AM	#1
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10-28-15, 05:55 AM	#2
danasan Elite Spam Hunter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Flensburg / Germany Posts: 1,141 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Gary, here is a workaround for those who don't want any 3rd party tools or don't want to read the whole day... First of all, I'd like you to understand that there is NO need to install SH3, once you have it installed on just ONE computer. That said, I haven't used the original game DVD for years now. I just copied the whole folder of a SH3 vanilla installation on an old computer, zipped it, and burnt it on a DVD. I can always start from that DVD by copying the content to my HDD. So, if you have access to a computer with an older OS, install SH3 there. -Verify if the game runs fine. After that: -Copy the whole SH3 folder to an external HDD \ Stick \ whatever. -Past the folder to your HDD with WIN 8.1, f.x. to the root of C:\ -You'd better name that folder f.x.: SilentHunter3 without any blanks. -Find the SH3.exe in that folder there and set admin rights and compatibility to XP or WIN 7. You should be done now. This method is safe, fast (depending on the medium you have your copy on) and independent. Edit for clarification: If you zipped the folder, you have to unzip it, of course. __________________ "I invite you to go inside this submergible hole in the water where you can nicely hide from destroyers." Last edited by danasan; 10-28-15 at 06:23 AM.

10-28-15, 07:29 AM	#4
danasan Elite Spam Hunter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Flensburg / Germany Posts: 1,141 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	@ Blitz, believe me, I'm not misunderstanding anything here. I am not going to quote Kpt. Lehman here. __________________ "I invite you to go inside this submergible hole in the water where you can nicely hide from destroyers."

10-28-15, 06:19 PM	#5
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Ok, so you all know. I did not try to install in the Programs (x86) folder. That was a senior moment in typing. My mind was going in circles when I posted this thread. I apologize. I did make a Games folder on C drive and it was not in any folder... it was on it's own. It is possible I had a corrupt download of the 1.4b patch as my broadband was all screwed up. That's now fixed. I tend to go with Sailor Steve's response on my 2005 SH3 dvd. I'm off and on my way down cellar to look for the later SH3 dvds I bought that don't have Starforce in them. At least I believe and hope they don't. I'll let you know as soon as I find them As to all your replies, my thanks. I took no one's reply in a derogatory way. You all have been very helpful and it made me think. Remember now, when SH3 came out I waited until the 1.4b patch came out before I installed it. At one time I could do the install blindfolded. But that was while we all were using XP. It's sad that MS has forgotten about us all and came out with operating systems that are giving most out there headaches trying to play these older games and simulations. I am one of those. Believe me, it's hell forgetting what I thought I knew new so well, and having to put up with the changes these new operating systems have dumped on us all. And Oliver, your Guide is fine as it is. I understood it. SH3 didn't. LOL Dan, I wish I had it on another computer I could take it from. That I would do in a heartbeat. to you all. And my thanks to Oliver and Dave. Besides Neal and SubSim, the two of you and got me re-interested in SH3, along with the new mods that have been made. Edit: BTW.. don't say it's solved just yet. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it. Last edited by GT182; 10-28-15 at 07:58 PM.

10-28-15, 07:09 PM	#6
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	No luck on a newer version of SH3 without Starforce. It's buried in a box somewhere or I gave it away to someone that wanted to play SH3. So, if anyone has a copy without Starforce in it and willing to sell it, I'm very interested it buying it. Edit: Found a copy on Amazon but waiting for a reply as to the date it was made, and if Starforce is not included on the dvd. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it. Last edited by GT182; 10-28-15 at 07:54 PM.

10-29-15, 01:44 AM	#7
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	I must be lucky but i've got almost all my games in the default X86 folder and they not only work just fine but mods work just fine as well. Never had any of the problems people seem to have with it. The only games I don't have there are games like SH3 where one needs multiple folders to work the mega-mods. __________________ "This is not a peace. It is an armistice for twenty years" - Ferdinand Foch on the Treaty of Versailles.(Boy was he ever right.)

10-29-15, 02:49 AM	#8
blackswan40 GWX - KC Crash Test Dummy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IN THE STEEL SHARKS VIRTUAL OCEAN Posts: 2,782 Downloads: 612 Uploads: 31	GT182 I have a spare SH3 DISC already patched to 1.4 no star force and once installed you dont need the dvd in your drive just pm me your home address & ill send you the disc THE PRIDE RUNS DEEP AT SUBSIM WE LOOK AFTER OUR OWN SALUTE __________________ Someone Had to Make the Tea

11-14-15, 08:38 AM	#9
chu888 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 7 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, I face the problem on SH3 in Windows 10! I've done many times for reinstall. After re-installing, it seems unstable and always be kicked out back to desk top during play! So, what I guess is, install the SH3 before you upgrade to Windows 10. I'm saying it because I do get the experience of SH4, which already in my drive before O/S upgrade. Now I do playing it smoothly without problem after upgraded to Windows 10. But I do love SH3, this is the best sub simulator for me, much better then SH4 & 5. I wish that SH3 could issue Windows 10 version, those problems should be fixed I think.

11-20-15, 07:34 PM	#10
aguycalledmonte Nub Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 4 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	doy uo guys know where i can find a safe copy of 1.4b? i went to your post blitskreig and took the link to download 1.4b.....only to have an installer that says its for 1.3...any help?