Net Neutrality may have just kicked the bucket in the European Union

VipertheSniper · 10-27-15, 05:00 PM

I think this video can explain this better than I ever could:

mapuc · 10-27-15, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

I think this video can explain this better than I ever could:

Thank you

Now I know what it mean and why you wrote

"Guess it's time to invest in telecom businesses, because they'll make fortune ripping customers off"

Markus

VipertheSniper · 10-27-15, 06:33 PM

It's rather long winded (over an hour) but it also provides a few good counterpoints to net neutrality, or rather giving governments the power to regulate, the internet or, how ISP's have to do their business
I don't share his sentiment that the free market will regulate itself to the best interest of the costumer, but I guess it's always good to hear both sides of the argument.

I think the video should really be named "My opinion about net neutrality" rather than "The Truth about net neutrality". From what I can gather some of his views are rather controversial, so if there's any discussion about his views, let's keep them on the topic of net neutrality.

ikalugin · 10-27-15, 08:34 PM

Some ISPs in Russia violate net neutralities I guess, because mobile internet providers cut your bandwidth if you:
- abuse hotspot trafic.
- use it for torrents and other file sharing services.
- if you over use traffic in general (above certain limit even for unlimited broadband).
The way it is formally justified that the real bandwidth (above "guaranteed") is dependent on the network status.

Does the same thing happen anywhere else?

Jimbuna · 10-28-15, 08:24 AM

Just another normal day in the crazy world of the EU I guess.

Shouldn't be long before others join the UK lead in giving the people that matter a say in a referendum.

Betonov · 10-28-15, 12:35 PM

Well, remember that politicians are magicians.
One hand to shift our focus and the other to steal our candy.

We were so affraid of some phantom islamic danger that they simply went and stole net neutrality without anyone bating an eye.

Bravo, bravo.

Skybird · 10-28-15, 12:40 PM

"Net neutrality may have kicked the bucket"...?

It HAS been kicked for sure. This was achieved by simply exchanging the meaning of ecisting "net neutrality" - and absence of it. Now neutrality gets claimed, while its opposite has been opened all doors, gates and windows for in invitation. Who thinks companies will not accept this invitation, must be naive.

I wonder whether the useless politicians voting for it even realised what they did. I mean on TTIP the German parliament memebers demanded a copy of all treaty drafts and arrangements to educate themselves on what they were told they should vote over in the near future - and the EU commission sends them the full set of papers indeed- ALL PAGES blackened. And demanded they should pass it once voting day comes, since they now had what they wanted.

Betonov · 10-28-15, 02:31 PM

Slovenia voted against.

Wow, so the retards we pay for their ''work holliday'' in Strassbourg actually did something right. Must have been drunk. I can't expect a sensible decision from people I once described as aborted donkey fetuses.

Oberon · 10-28-15, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Just another normal day in the crazy world of the EU I guess.

Shouldn't be long before others join the UK lead in giving the people that matter a say in a referendum.

Aye, give the Tories a chance to one up the EU when it comes to incompetence.

10-27-15, 06:33 PM	#3
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's rather long winded (over an hour) but it also provides a few good counterpoints to net neutrality, or rather giving governments the power to regulate, the internet or, how ISP's have to do their business I don't share his sentiment that the free market will regulate itself to the best interest of the costumer, but I guess it's always good to hear both sides of the argument. I think the video should really be named "My opinion about net neutrality" rather than "The Truth about net neutrality". From what I can gather some of his views are rather controversial, so if there's any discussion about his views, let's keep them on the topic of net neutrality. Last edited by VipertheSniper; 10-27-15 at 06:43 PM.

10-27-15, 08:34 PM	#4
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Some ISPs in Russia violate net neutralities I guess, because mobile internet providers cut your bandwidth if you: - abuse hotspot trafic. - use it for torrents and other file sharing services. - if you over use traffic in general (above certain limit even for unlimited broadband). The way it is formally justified that the real bandwidth (above "guaranteed") is dependent on the network status. Does the same thing happen anywhere else? __________________ Grumpy as always.

10-28-15, 08:24 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,437 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Just another normal day in the crazy world of the EU I guess. Shouldn't be long before others join the UK lead in giving the people that matter a say in a referendum. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-28-15, 12:40 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,813 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Net neutrality *may* have kicked the bucket"...? It HAS been kicked for sure. This was achieved by simply exchanging the meaning of ecisting "net neutrality" - and absence of it. Now neutrality gets claimed, while its opposite has been opened all doors, gates and windows for in invitation. Who thinks companies will not accept this invitation, must be naive. I wonder whether the useless politicians voting for it even realised what they did. I mean on TTIP the German parliament memebers demanded a copy of all treaty drafts and arrangements to educate themselves on what they were told they should vote over in the near future - and the EU commission sends them the full set of papers indeed- *ALL PAGES blackened.* And demanded they should pass it once voting day comes, since they now had what they wanted. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-27-15, 05:00 PM	#1
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think this video can explain this better than I ever could:

10-28-15, 12:35 PM	#6
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Well, remember that politicians are magicians. One hand to shift our focus and the other to steal our candy. We were so affraid of some phantom islamic danger that they simply went and stole net neutrality without anyone bating an eye. Bravo, bravo.

10-28-15, 02:31 PM	#8
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Slovenia voted against. Wow, so the retards we pay for their ''work holliday'' in Strassbourg actually did something right. Must have been drunk. I can't expect a sensible decision from people I once described as aborted donkey fetuses.