A new slant on RIMPAC Naval politics/The Fight To Control The South China Sea

[mapuc]

I think the Chinese will make some diplomatically protest and nothing more. I don't think they are in any way interested in escalating this-For once I hope I'm right and not wrong.

Military they will send some vessel to "see" what the Americans do and they will send some air assets

Markus

[ikalugin]

Raising power, established power. Someone said peloponesian wars?

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Raising power, established power. Someone said peloponesian wars?

Indeed: Aegospotamii of the Pacific
It all will come down to Fomosa, our trump card in their 'gandu' and ....
This is retaliation for???? : "Chinese navy ships entered U.S. territorial waters off Alaska in September, coming within 12 miles of the coastline during President Barack Obama's visit to the state, U.S. officials told CNN at the time.
The officials emphasized that China's actions were consistent with "innocent passage" under international maritime law." Apparently the Chinese bastards have privileges we do not. They don't allow us the same twelve mile limit 'innocent passage'. Perhaps they're just better than we are! The sabers are definitely rattling; we need to resolve this swiftly and decisively on our short time-span vs China's 50 year long-term plan....appeasement and delay solves nothing. Throw in the industrial/hacking spying and the Yaun devaluation to afflict our economy: we are clearly at war already.

[ikalugin]

Well, if you look at the balance of power it is shifting, it appears that US could no longer (for example) establish air dominance over Taiwan. I wonder where it would get by 2020 and 2025 and 2030.

That said, we are not doing all that stellar either, we only get 450 newly built (2007-2020, hard sighned contracts and already built aircraft) T10 (aka Flanker) series (Su30SM, Su34, Su35S and few Su30M2s) in our Armed Forces (split between RuASF and MA of RuN), plus modernised legacy aircraft. Not sure if it is adequate

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

it appears that US could no longer (for example) establish air dominance over Taiwan.

Precisely! I never said over! Aircraft tend to be tactical...this is a strategic problem...navies are strategic; and right now our strategic is (a tad) better than theirs; time IMHO to throw their timing off and free Tibet while were at it. Not responding over 50 years ago 'appeasement and delay solves nothing' probably due to racism and disregard for 'brown people's sovereignty has set this current problem in motion. We saw the same naval confrontation buildup in 1914; nothing new here, including enlightenment and/or the lack therof! The Sino-aggrandizement of global resources (greed) will not stop of its own accord.

[ikalugin]

US has an overall strategic advantage in both conventional and nuclear arms.

The problem is that the conventional advantage is no longer great enough to assure complete US domination, provided the war is short/local due to nukes and begins with PRC holding the initiative.

[mapuc]

I believe the Chinese are doing its best to complete their work on these island and they are going to use every "democratically bureaucracy step" they can to prevent USA and other countries nearby to from stopping them fulfilling their goal.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I think the Chinese will make some diplomatically protest and nothing more. I don't think they are in any way interested in escalating this-For once I hope I'm right and not wrong.

Military they will send some vessel to "see" what the Americans do and they will send some air assets

Markus

Well, reports say the Chinese took no retaliatory action. So what now? Repeat in six months? I think the US/Japan/S. Korea should begin excavating their own man-made islands in the South China Sea