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Old 08-27-15, 10:30 AM   #16
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Socialism works with a free economy in a infrastructure advanced nation.

Communism can never work. It goes agaisnt the human nature.
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Old 08-27-15, 10:43 AM   #17
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My feeling is that true communism and true democracy are flip sides of the same coin, and that neither can work in anything other than a very small community.

I'm probably wrong, though.
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Old 08-27-15, 10:45 AM   #18
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In my opinion it could work should there be such abundance of resources, that human input would be only creative thought and consumption related.
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Old 08-27-15, 11:11 AM   #19
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I don't trust communism.
Too much living as one in a community where one takes care of eachother and we all know one another. I don't want to know one another. I want to close myself off with a good movie now and then without someone koncking on my door going : hello comrade, what a nice day for being a part of the community.

I like the socialist idea though. I rahter pay a bit more taxes and am unburdened by healthcare, roads, education....
I want my free hours to be free.
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Old 08-27-15, 11:21 AM   #20
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In my opinion it could work should there be such abundance of resources, that human input would be only creative thought and consumption related.

Meh, There is still going to have to be a class of laborors destined to sweat and toil to produce and exploit those abundant resources for the lazy fat arsed creative thinkers who just sit around dreaming up uselss crap for the other guy to do. History has proven it eventually leads to jealousies which leads to rebellion which leads to the lazy arse royalty to loose their heads.
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Old 08-27-15, 11:34 AM   #21
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Those labourers would not be human or even organic.
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Old 08-27-15, 01:58 PM   #22
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Those labourers would not be human or even organic.
Then what about the hordes of now unemployed laborers?
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Old 08-27-15, 02:02 PM   #23
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Those get employement in services sector, doing all the "usefull" stuff related to creative activities/arts/what not. Those who cannot be asked to work, they just live of benefits.

A small percentage does something actually usefull.
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Old 08-27-15, 02:06 PM   #24
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Since we've yet to see true examples of either then it's hard to say.
Hasn't France been run by the Socialist party a couple times?
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Old 08-27-15, 04:10 PM   #25
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Implying that there is any degree of communism or even socialism in PRC.
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Well, it's not exactly a democracy either.

Interestingly, China defines itself, in their constitution, as a "Democratic Dictatorship". Now that's an interesting term.
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Old 08-27-15, 05:26 PM   #26
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Those get employement in services sector, doing all the "usefull" stuff related to creative activities/arts/what not. Those who cannot be asked to work, they just live of benefits.

A small percentage does something actually usefull.
In other words form a really big circle, hand out many toilet paper rolls and start wiping...
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Old 10-26-15, 02:27 PM   #27
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Default Saudi Arabia could be bankrupt within five years, IMF predicts

And I who thought their bank account was overfilled with billions and billions of dollars from all this oil.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6706821.html

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Saudi Arabia’s cash reserves are in free-fall and the country could have only five years of financial assets remaining due in large part to the fall in oil prices, according to a report by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
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Old 10-26-15, 02:49 PM   #28
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Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys...


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Old 10-26-15, 03:04 PM   #29
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They can always melt their Lamborginis into gold bars
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They can always melt their Lamborginis into gold bars
This guy got the right idea.


Unfortunately, it was just yellow paint and not gold as he soon found out.
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