So who has ever had a Holy 'holy mother of god!' Moment?

[Barkerov]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

video. Routine, Toothless. I'll bet you've never been swarmed like I am in this video. Not only could not touch me, no one ever saw me. If you follow the procedure you can't be touched.

I agree that they are harmless if you follow an avoidance procedure. Even in a radar-less S-class if you run it decks awash and crash dive at the first sighting of an aircraft they never touch you. The only times I have ever taken damage from an aircraft was when I 1) hesitated before diving and 2) when I foolishly came up without checking for them first.

It has to be said that we benefit greatly from having a radar which gives a 100% probability of detection in all conditions. We also benefit greatly by the lack of Japanese radar detectors.