Alien nomads could destroy earth

[mapuc]

It is funny I should read this today-yesterday I saw Independence Day

It also makes me wonder if Hawkings have seen to much of "Hollywoods version of how Aliens are"

Markus

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It is funny I should read this today-yesterday I saw Independence Day

It also makes me wonder if Hawkings have seen to much of "Hollywoods version of how Aliens are"

Markus

What's funny is that some cable channels here play Independence Day, all day on the 4th of July. We've probably raised a generation who thinks the USA won it's independence from genocidal aliens, not King George III.

Hawking is either being paranoid, or hunting for a little more publicity. Let's look at the Fermi paradox and the Drake equation for an example. Any species capable of interstellar technology would have had the ability to annihilate itself many times over before ever achieving the technology necessary to travel interstellar distance through space.

The Fermi Paradox offers us a way of looking at a vast universe that is not exactly teeming with obvious signs of intelligent life. Because intelligent, curious, inquisitive species probably end up accidentally killing themselves in the effort to understand the make up of reality, or accidentally or deliberately kill themselves off out of hostile and aggressive tendencies.

Therefore, within reason, it is more probable that the only species capable of such advanced technology would be the few left who were able to overcome the aggressive and hostile tendencies Hawking fears. The problem is this makes for boring science fiction and we are bombarded with scenarios in pop culture where creatures come to earth to take our resources when in reality their tech is so advanced they would be able to program matter itself and create their own resources.

Of course, this does not rule out ancient trans-dimensional million tentacled cephalopods who want to shatter the sphere of our reality and devour our sanity like cold mint jelly. That's just instinctual behavior for animals vastly more complex than we are.

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Hawking is either being paranoid, or hunting for a little more publicity.

I'm not questionings Hawkings skills. I point out the way many of these scientist see aliens

Not so long ago I saw some kind of documentary on the German TV-channel N24 about alien and it that program they were hostile and in many more documentary I have seen, the aliens are hostile.

I have seen some sci-fi movies throughout the years and in most of them the alien is very hostile towards us.

There are some science program where the scientist say alien can't be hostile.

Markus

[fireftr18]

They're already here, everywhere, and they're taking over. They are right now disguising themselves to look like us to interbreed with us.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by fireftr18

They're already here, everywhere, and they're taking over. They are right now disguising themselves to look like us to interbreed with us.

Don't be so prideful! Interbreeding is what they do with sasquatchs, yetis and borneo wildmen .. not to mention Daniel Boone style Kaintucky Yeahohs; regular genetically altered humans (subsquatches to the little gray guys) are just the food supply. In Washington State:

Whereas, be it resolved that any premeditated, willful and wanton slaying harassing or any malicious activities upon such creature shall be deemed a felony punishable by a fine not to exceed One hundred Thousand Dollars ($100.0000) and/or imprisonment, not to exceed ten (10) years.
Whereas, in the event of the slaying or capture of said creature any and all (moneys) proceeds and revenues shall be donated to a state college for future studies and or the protection of said creatures. The rights and physical possession to the said creature shall also be immediately donated to a state college, for further studies.

[CCIP]

“Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption—that an alien race would be psychologically human.” -Boris & Arkady Strugatsky

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Don't be so prideful!...

Originally Posted by CCIP

At its core is a flawed assumption—that an alien race would be psychologically human.” -Boris & Arkady Strugatsky

I, Boris and Arkady think alike???!! (psst! <he was one of them; part of relativity theory was assuming everyone else's core assumptions (Newton/gravity/time) is flawed...

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by fireftr18

They're already here, everywhere, and they're taking over. They are right now disguising themselves to look like us to interbreed with us.

But no one will believe you.....

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Not so long ago I saw some kind of documentary on the German TV-channel N24 about alien and it that program they were hostile and in many more documentary I have seen, the aliens are hostile.

It wasn't a documentary, even if it claimed to be. Documentaries "document" what is, not what someone imagines might be, no matter how important that someone is.

I have seen some sci-fi movies throughout the years and in most of them the alien is very hostile towards us.

Sci-fi. Short for Science Fiction.

There are some science program where the scientist say alien can't be hostile.

Again there is no "can" or "can't". It's just speculation. Unless there are secrets somebody isn't telling us (and now we're back into conspiracy theories) there is no evidence one way or the other as to whether aliens even exist, let alone how they might act if we meet them. None.

[GoldenRivet]

With the utmost respect to the good doctor I personally postulate that any alien beings capable of traversing the universe to come see us would have a) long-ago figured out ways around their visitations being lethal to those they visit and b) have probably matured as a species to the point of being above conquest of other civilizations and would instead be more interested in exploration and scientific discovery

I am however open to the alternative that he is correct

I do however subscribe to the Idea that while it is statistically *probable* that numerous other alien civilizations may exist close enough to our solar system for a visit... It is rather *improbable* that those civilizations meet both criteria of being close enough to visit us AND technologically advanced enough to make the trip.

See "Fermi paradox"

[August]

I think theories as to how a visiting alien race would behave are more wishful thinking than anything else. The truth is we have no idea how they would treat us.

[Oberon]

I think another part of the problem is that we mainly make our aliens based upon our viewpoints and thought processes. We could be surrounded by aliens that we just simply cannot comprehend with our current abilities.

It's a tricky thing.