Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Jeff-Groves]

Oh how the Media people love this stuff!
Try not making the nut bags infamous sometime.
That's what seems to drive the loonies.

[August]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Oh how the Media people love this stuff!
Try not making the nut bags infamous sometime.
That's what seems to drive the loonies.

This ^

The last one they captured alive and that's exactly what he said was his motivation.

[mapuc]

Have only two things to say about this terrible

1. I feel so sad for those who has lost a love one.

2. As said a few times before. This is an all American problem and shall be solved by them self.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

"Authorities are searching for a motive"

Here's a clue.
He was a sissy that dressed in his momma's under clothing and was probably a closet queen.
He failed at everything in life including how to kill himself without hurting others.
Probably attempted to rape small animals but failed at that.
His name should never be released and all mention of him should be stricken from records.
Not even a picture of him should remain.
Media should refer to him as "Scum Bag" and nothing more.
How's that fit your infamy plan Scum Bag?

[Oberon]

I imagine most of the focus and ire this time will probably fall onto 4chan, it seems like a convenient target.

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

"Authorities are searching for a motive"

Here's a clue.
He was a sissy that dressed in his momma's under clothing and was probably a closet queen.
He failed at everything in life including how to kill himself without hurting others.
Probably attempted to rape small animals but failed at that.
His name should never be released and all mention of him should be stricken from records.
Not even a picture of him should remain.
Media should refer to him as "Scum Bag" and nothing more.
How's that fit your infamy plan Scum Bag?

Beautiful how simple some peoples world is when you just see everything in black and white...
Meanwhile in the real world, I feel the need to remind you that motive =/= cause.
Assuming all your assumptions and claims are true, answer me the following:

Why was he a "sissy who dressed in momma's clothes"?
Why did he fail at everything in live?
Why did he want to kill himself in the first place?
Why did he attempt to rape small animals?

Maybe, just maybe, it is time to think further than 2 yards and start to analyze the actual cause(s) of all these shootings to, maybe, start doing something so these events at least don't happen more and more.

Maybe.

Originally Posted by Oberon

I imagine most of the focus and ire this time will probably fall onto 4chan, it seems like a convenient target.

Yes, good old days when clearly Marylin Manson was the cause of school shootings...because of her diabolic music.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Maybe, just maybe, it is time to think further than 2 yards and start to analyze the actual cause(s) of all these shootings to, maybe, start doing something so these events at least don't happen more and more.

Maybe.

Na.
My first thought is why are Non-Citizens of the U.S.A. so slap happy to mess with our rights and tell us we are wrong?


Here's what's wrong. The Nuts want to be infamous, Media is more then glad to do that, and people like you bleed at the heart for the scum that slaughtered people.


Given the choice to stop a future crime by killing him you'd hesitate and debate I'll bet.

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Na.
My first thought is why are Non-Citizens of the U.S.A. so slap happy to mess with our rights and tell us we are wrong?

I'm not messing with your rights, I have no way to influence them for as long as I am no US citizen - which I most likely never will be, don't worry.Still, I wonder about the butt-hurt and defensive behavior as soon as "foreigners" dare to criticize an obviously flawed system.Maybe this topic is bigger than your nationalism, Jeff. However, this is an international forum where everyone can debate and discuss whatever he pleases - as long as it goes alongside the rules - so maybe you just take your nationalism elsewhere?
Cause this doesn't belong on Subsim the last time I checked.
Especially not when North Korea, Russia, Europe, Israel, ... and everyone else is always in the crosshair of debates on here - but sure, the holy rights of a US citizen must not be debated by pesky europoors.

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Here's what's wrong. The Nuts want to be infamous, Media is more then glad to do that, and people like you bleed at the heart for the scum that slaughtered people.

Why do they want to be infamous?
And please, don't make up some BS about me just to desperately build some snowman, ok?
I do not feel sorry for him, I didn't even imply that.
My interest lies in analyzing the cause, the root and stop it from happening or at least try to.
It doesn't help to label people and shove them away - obviously - so maybe a new approach with a more open mind with less old-fashioned hate-mongering might be worth trying?... Maybe.

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Given the choice to stop a future crime by killing him you'd hesitate and debate I'll bet.

Thank you for showing so clearly that you don't even understand what I said. But it might not be your fault. Since I am a foreigner from your point of view, it might be a language related problem - I apologize.

[Buddahaid]

It's just venting. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible owners, and when these high profile shootings occur, we are upset because it's one more brick in the wall of ban. I've experienced too many things that are now outlawed because of the few who abuse their privileges and I don't want gun ownership to be added to that list as well.

The reality is you can't prevent all determined people from doing whatever evil scheme they dream up even in the most restrictive environments. I don't think there really is a solution, or if there is one, it's worse than the problem it's designed to correct.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Yes, good old days when clearly Marylin Manson was the cause of school shootings...because of her diabolic music.

And Doom, that bringer of death and destruction upon the world.

Where's Jack Thompson when you need him?

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It's just venting. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible owners, and when these high profile shootings occur, we are upset because it's one more brick in the wall of ban. I've experienced too many things that are now outlawed because of the few who abuse their privileges and I don't want gun ownership to be added to that list as well.

The reality is you can't prevent all determined people from doing whatever evil scheme they dream up even in the most restrictive environments. I don't think there really is a solution, or if there is one, it's worse than the problem it's designed to correct.

Well said.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Then what would you BELIEVE? What is your solution then and how would it work? Maybe the differing attitude comes from growing up with, or without guns in the house. It doesn't bother me that there are and it's perfectly normal feeling.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Then what would you BELIEVE? What is your solution then and how would it work? Maybe the differing attitude comes from growing up with, or without guns in the house. It doesn't bother me that there are and it's perfectly normal feeling.

Err, what? Next time maybe watch the video I linked?
The video isn't about guns, it is showing how ridiculously stupid our media is these days, reporting about something they do not know and do not understand - yet making crap up "educating" people.

Maybe you need to google what 4Chan is to understand, not sure, but to me this is extremely cringe worthy.

Speaking of videos, here is Obama's statement regarding the shooting.
Think of him what you want, but it is hard to disagree with what he says... oh no what did I just do...