Europe's migrant problem

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

No European has started the thread because they don't want to appear racist.

"I am proud to be Asian" - said the Asian
"I am proud to be African" - said the African
"I am proud to be Jewish - said the Jew
"I am proud to be an Arab" - said the Arab

"I am proud to be European" - said the evil, racist, homophobe, white, intolerant, right-wing, hateful antisemitic supremacist Nazi oppressor

[STEED]

Thorny issue here in the UK and I don't trust comments made by politicians and the media news and to be honest no one has a solution to the problem and both sides say they have when in fact they have not, sooner or later the general public in the UK will go off like a fire cracker.



Or maybe not..

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

In Germany it seems we have only two sides.
Those on the very right, acting as if every single refugee is a criminal just waiting for an opportunity to strike and those on the far left, acting as if all of them are poor poor victims of someone or something and need all the love in the world.
The truth, and the more realistic point of view I dare to say, is somewhere in the middle - yet I hear no one speaking or thinking like that in, say TV talk shows, newspapers, articles, ...

Because in Germany from what I've heard but could be wrong if you have genuine concerns and critisism about the whole Asylum issue right now politicians have no problem in throwing you into the same basket as the Neo-Nazis or as Dowly put it down more appropiate.

a evil, racist, homophobe, white, intolerant, right-wing, hateful antisemitic supremacist Nazi oppressor

actually it's not only in Germany as in the Netherlands you can't get away with it either if you have critisism or genuine concerns you're branded the same as the above these days.

[Wolferz]

Maybe those refugees should grow a pair and do something about what's going on in their home countries, instead of running away like lazy cowards and looking for a handout elsewhere.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Maybe those refugees should grow a pair and do something about what's going on in their home countries, instead of running away like lazy cowards and looking for a handout elsewhere.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

That worked really well in Afghanistan against the Soviets, didn't it?

How do you make sure that you don't actually train and equip the wrong people?

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Because in Germany from what I've heard but could be wrong if you have genuine concerns and critisism about the whole Asylum issue right now politicians have no problem in throwing you into the same basket as the Neo-Nazis or as Dowly put it down more appropiate.

Yes, this is absolutely the case here and is a huge problem, as "political correctness" always is.

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Maybe those refugees should grow a pair and do something about what's going on in their home countries, instead of running away like lazy cowards and looking for a handout elsewhere.

I don't even know what to say

[Tchocky]

Pledging €20 to get Oberon a soapbox+loudhailer, who's with me?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by Oberon

The EU needs to get its collective heads out of its arses and actually get a proper program in place for resettlement and relocation of these people.

I'd recommend a disputed strip of land they could call home. What could possibly go wrong.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I did contemplate taking a trip to Speakers Corner when I head down to London next...

Do it in style, in the buff.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Yes, and Obama finished it by pulling out while the country was still an unstable steaming pile of cow dung. I don't know who was more stupid.
What did they expect would happen in a power vacuum in the middle east?

Interesting take, given it was Bush who set the pullout date and timetable during his negotiations with the Iraqi puppet government his administration set up. It is also interesting the final pullout date was 'coincidentally' set after the end of his terms, rather than during his Presidency. I guess he and his cronies knew they had severely, and for the American servicepersons killed and maimed for really no purpose, tragically botched the whole situation and also saw the inevitable chaos that would come after US forces were withdrawn and chose to let whoever followed Bush to take the hit and thereby not damage Bush's sterling "legacy"...

Whoever followed Bush was left with a no-win situation: if they pulled out, the outcry would match what we have now and what is characterized in the quote above; if they had stayed or increased US presence in Iraq in contradiction to the Bush-negotiated agreement, the cry would be of war-mongering, duplicity, 'imperial Presidency', etc. It didn't matter if it was Romney or Obama: Bush crapped all over US foreign policy, as he did US economic policy, and left the steaming piles for his successor(s)...


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[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I'm trying to attract people to the cause, not scare them off!

Your only scare off any police surveillance...Arrreeeeee my eyes, why did I use the zoom.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by vienna

Interesting take, given it was Bush who set the pullout date and timetable during his negotiations with the Iraqi puppet government his administration set up. It is also interesting the final pullout date was 'coincidentally' set after the end of his terms, rather than during his Presidency. I guess he and his cronies knew they had severely, and for the American servicepersons killed and maimed for really no purpose, tragically botched the whole situation and also saw the inevitable chaos that would come after US forces were withdrawn and chose to let whoever followed Bush to take the hit and thereby not damage Bush's sterling "legacy"...

Whoever followed Bush was left with a no-win situation: if they pulled out, the outcry would match what we have now and what is characterized in the quote above; if they had stayed or increased US presence in Iraq in contradiction to the Bush-negotiated agreement, the cry would be of war-mongering, duplicity, 'imperial Presidency', etc. It didn't matter if it was Romney or Obama: Bush crapped all over US foreign policy, as he did US economic policy, and left the steaming piles for his successor(s)...


<O>

Bush is working on his autobiography....

HOW I SCREWED EVERYBODY WITH MY BIG DICK CHENEY

He'd be done by now if the crayons would stop breaking.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Pledging €20 to get Oberon a soapbox+loudhailer, who's with me?

umm, no.

[Betonov]

In that case, I pledge Oberon my largest potato box

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Dowly

"I am proud to be Asian" - said the Asian
"I am proud to be African" - said the African
"I am proud to be Jewish - said the Jew
"I am proud to be an Arab" - said the Arab

"I am proud to be European" - said the evil, racist, homophobe, white, intolerant, right-wing, hateful antisemitic supremacist Nazi oppressor

Jeremiah 9:23-24　
This is what the Lord says:
"The wise must not brag about their wisdom.
The strong must not brag about their strength.
The rich must not brag about their money.
　
But if people want to brag, let them brag
that they understand and know me.
Let them brag that I am the Lord,
and that I am kind and fair,
and that I do things that are right on earth.
This kind of bragging pleases me,"