[REL] Manos Optics for Karamazovnew's UI

[ReallyDedPoet]

Excellent

[makman94]

Originally Posted by jaxa

Superb work Makman
Is it possible to enable it during patrol or better return to port?

hi Jaxa,
yes, you can enable it during patrol

Originally Posted by CaptBones

Makman...you have scored a winning goal with this MOD; thank you, thank you and thank you again! This fixes so many little annoying issues that I can't begin to thank you enough.

Not only does it do exactly what you said it does, but it also makes the images in the binoculars and UZO look like real-world images (anyone who has ever used 'em knows you have to adjust the interpupillary eyepiece distance correctly to get a single "round" viewing image).

AND...you've managed to correct my biggest gripe about the UZO and observation scope...the WO can do his job now and open the recognition book to the correct page so I don't have to spend precious minutes thumbing through the darn thing to find the information I need to make an attack. Now...if I can just "dissect" the MOD files enough to find out how you made that work, I'll fix that same problem in my USN Pacific Campaign (TMO/RSRD) installation.

thank you too CaptBones ,

i definately agree with you on the binocular's view. everybody who has binoculars can see this

as for the Rec book going to correct page , that was a feature allready there.
(tip:the 'responsible' entries for this are the [G26 I235] and [G26 I236] for the attack scope,the [G2B I235] and [G2B I236] for the Obs scope and the [G28 I235] and [G28 I236] for the Uzo)

something else that i added to the WO abillities (and forgot to mention) is that the WO is giving you now range estimations. for some reason this abillity was discarded.
(tip:for those who don't want their WO to give range estimations, just delete the menu text file --located in data/menu/ folder -- and then enable the mod)

Originally Posted by ReallyDedPoet

Excellent

thank you RDP ,
enjoy

[CaptBones]

Quote: as for the Rec book going to correct page , that was a feature allready there. (tip:the 'responsible' entries for this are the [G26 I235] and [G26 I236] for the attack scope,the [G2B I235] and [G2B I236] for the Obs scope and the [G28 I235] and [G28 I236] for the Uzo)

That is a great help. The G28 and G2B entries do not exist in my OM 720/OMEGU 300 data\Menu\menu_1024_768.ini file. I'm satisfied that your optics MOD fixes it, but I'm going to try to use this info to also fix my SH4/TMO installation.

The only entries like those, that exist in my SH4/TMO menu_1024_768.ini, are the G26 entries. None of those four G28 and G2B items exist; the last entries for those two pages are G28 I136 and G2B I149. I'm going to uninstall all of the MODs in that installation and see if they are in the "stock" data\Menu folder. But, whether they are or not, I might try to copy those items from your MOD into the TMO data\Menu folder (renumbered to fit in the existing sequence) and see if that works.

Thanks again...

[makman94]

Originally Posted by CaptBones

That is a great help. The G28 and G2B entries do not exist in my OM 720/OMEGU 300 data\Menu\menu_1024_768.ini file. I'm satisfied that your optics MOD fixes it, but I'm going to try to use this info to also fix my SH4/TMO installation.

The only entries like those, that exist in my SH4/TMO menu_1024_768.ini, are the G26 entries. None of those four G28 and G2B items exist; the last entries for those two pages are G28 I136 and G2B I149. I'm going to uninstall all of the MODs in that installation and see if they are in the "stock" data\Menu folder. But, whether they are or not, I might try to copy those items from your MOD into the TMO data\Menu folder (renumbered to fit in the existing sequence) and see if that works.

Thanks again...

hello CaptBones,

of course these entries doesn't exist at any other setup.
the uzo and obs page are completely rewritten at this mod thats why you have now the ''going to correct page'' at uzo and obs scope too.

i told you what entries are ''responsible'' for the ''going to correct page'' at this mod.
if you want to find out the ''responsible'' entries to other setups ,you have to search for the corresponding entries (there will be in there with different numbers. for example in omegu v300 files , the corresponding entries are the [G2B I117] and [G2B I118] for obs and the [G28 I102] and [G28 I103] for uzo)

all you have to do is to find the corresponding entries in your TMO setup and match them (match their pos and zone lines). no renumbering is needed.

good luck

[CaptBones]

Suspicions confirmed...I did start to look for differently numbered items that had the same or similar "title" lines (ship button and ship val together). But, I put it off for a day and here you are riding to the rescue again. This also saves me the trouble of trying to sort out just which lines to change (I figured the "pos" would need to be changed but would have stumbled around in the dark for awhile longer trying to figure out the "zone".

Thank you...would you mind if I put this information, relevant to WOP/TMO, out in a post on the SH4 WOP forum (after I'm sure it will work of course)? Several months ago I griped about the problem here and on that forum and never got a response or any suggestions on how to fix it...probably because nobody knew or had the time to try to figure it out.

[makman94]

Originally Posted by CaptBones

Suspicions confirmed...I did start to look for differently numbered items that had the same or similar "title" lines (ship button and ship val together). But, I put it off for a day and here you are riding to the rescue again. This also saves me the trouble of trying to sort out just which lines to change (I figured the "pos" would need to be changed but would have stumbled around in the dark for awhile longer trying to figure out the "zone".

Thank you...would you mind if I put this information, relevant to WOP/TMO, out in a post on the SH4 WOP forum (after I'm sure it will work of course)? Several months ago I griped about the problem here and on that forum and never got a response or any suggestions on how to fix it...probably because nobody knew or had the time to try to figure it out.

of course you can share the information,that is the spirit of our community

btw, you remind me a tv show where the presenter of it was very 'tough' and 'spicy' with his guests. he always started the show with the phrase ''lets talk just the two of us'' ! (<---in greeks,it is an expression meaning that whatever will be told must stay between the two of us)

[CaptBones]

Thanks makman...if/when I get it working with TMO and post the solution on the SH4 WOP forum, I will give you all the credit for doing the real work...I'm just going to experiment with what you've provided me here.

My family, employees, co-workers and the people who served with me in the Navy all said I was the definition of "curmudgeon" and it didn't matter whether I was "old" or not! I would have worn a nametag like that as a badge of honor...