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Old 08-21-15, 03:44 AM   #16
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Aye, I can't say I trust them enough, nor others around them to react well to it. It's certainly an unwanted addition to an already volatile area, but equally it's very difficult to keep the nuclear genie in its bottle, after all the basics of nuclear weaponry are available for anyone who has an interest.
Well I trust them as much as I do with those who already have the nukes. With the US and RUS it may seem fine now but what with the next guy or the guy after that? It may just take a single guy giving him the right time in a political situation or crisis to have one nation turn around 180º from what it is now. DPRK is something I would worry about, that rotting regime is going on for quite a while and I expect they'll be going for a while but for how much longer without outside help? Even if we don't do anything to speed that up if that collapses I fear what they'll do with the nuclear arsenal they have...they may not strike the world with it but South Korea would wish it wasn't that close to them.
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Old 08-21-15, 05:35 AM   #17
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Yeah, the DPRK seems to be going a bit random at the moment, it's probably nothing...but then the last time I said that Putin annexed Crimea, so I have been known to be wrong about such things...
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Old 08-21-15, 06:19 AM   #19
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The issue is you would have to fanatical kindergarten kids with nukes who aren't afraid of getting killed because they do it for their god. MAD did only work because each side feared destruction.
Yes, this is a problem with IS. However .. does not IS have some holy sites as well, Quran-wise? Threatening those would probably mean something to them. But i fear most are not interested in Islam either, they just see it as a justification to gain power..
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Blargh.

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I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't read it here-

http://www.chron.com/news/world/arti...ke-6453252.php
Well the AP have substantially modified and cut their story since publication. It's really a non-story.

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I have to quit reading the news, everyday you see things that are just beyond belief, but still it goes on!
It's beyond belief because it was a badly flawed story .

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/20/9182185...ctions-parchin - Here's a decent explainer of the issue - with input from weapons treaty experts.

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"This came down to a pissing contest about whether or not we could go walk into Parchin, which is irrelevant," Aaron Stein, an arms control and Middle East scholar, told me last month about the negotiations over PMD and Parchin. "In the deal they're going to give managed access to Parchin, and you know what? We're going to lose on this because they're not going to find anything at Parchin. All of this will come down to nothing."
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