A new slant on RIMPAC Naval politics/The Fight To Control The South China Sea

Onkel Neal · 08-10-15, 07:32 AM

Two interesting, contrasting articles

China hits back at U.S. criticism over South China Sea 'restrictions'

China committed to uphold peace, stability in S. China Sea

Aktungbby · 08-10-15, 11:23 AM

I'm beginning to wonder if all of this isn't to develop a 'bargaining-chip' for the formal reacquisition of Taiwan/Formosa which is the big objective over all. Present Formosa is a 'big cork' in their bottle. The other big problem is that all conflict takes place in time; China is in no hurry which is at odds with Western culture. We, in the West, like to settle things more quickly than 50 years+ down the line. The Sino power establishment understands it has no equivalent navy capable of head to head conflict at sea, yet, and is biding its time to develop its military infrastructure to maintain what it is continuing since the illegal acquisition of Tibet...over 50 years ago

Aktungbby · 08-25-15, 01:34 PM

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/15/china-russia-navy-joint-sea-2015-asia-pivot-blowback/ On May 11, nine ships from the Russian Navy and China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) kicked off 10 days of combined exercises in the Mediterranean Sea, for their first joint naval war games in European waters. What does this nautical confab, dubbed “Joint Sea 2015,” entail? “Maritime defense, maritime replenishment, escort actions, joint operations to safeguard navigation security as well as real weapon firing drill,” according to Sr. Col. Geng Yansheng, a spokesman for China’s Defense Ministry. The aim of the exercises is to “further deepen friendly and practical interaction between the two countries,” maintained the Russian Defense Ministry. Moscow added that the drills “are not aimed against any third country.”

Onkel Neal · 10-14-15, 03:05 PM

Here we go....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34529863

Quote:

China has been worrying its neighbours - and the US - by enlarging the series of tiny islands, reports the BBC's China analyst Michael Bristow.

Washington believes Beijing is constructing military facilities, designed to reinforce its disputed claim to most of the region - a major shipping zone.

The row began when US officials said they were considering sending warships inside the 12-nautical-mile zones that China claims as territory around the Spratlys.

That sparked strong words from China, with Ms Hua warning: "We will never allow any country to violate China's territorial waters and airspace in the Spratly Islands, in the name of protecting freedom of navigation and overflight."

On Tuesday, US Defence Secretary Ash Carter expressed "strong concerns" over island-building, and defended Washington's plans.
"Make no mistake, the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows, as we do around the world, and the South China Sea will not be an exception," he said at a news conference with the Australian foreign and defence ministers.

"We will do that in the time and places of our choosing," he added, according to Reuters news agency.

Aktungbby · 10-14-15, 03:12 PM

FIRST TIBET; THEN THE WORLD!

ikalugin · 10-14-15, 03:55 PM

On serious note, the balance of power is changing in the region. Though it is not as obvious in that islands scenario, it is much more obvious in the Taiwan one, primarily due to the BM build up by PRC.

mapuc · 10-14-15, 06:06 PM

Can easily imagine a situation where America has sent a warship inside China's 12 nautical miles limit(forgot what the real word is), to say to China- We do not recognize your "claim" and this minor psychological naval battle could very well go out of control.

Markus

08-10-15, 07:32 AM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Two interesting, contrasting articles China hits back at U.S. criticism over South China Sea 'restrictions' China committed to uphold peace, stability in S. China Sea __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-10-15, 11:23 AM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,095 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I'm beginning to wonder if all of this isn't to develop a 'bargaining-chip' for the formal reacquisition of Taiwan/Formosa which is the big objective over all. Present Formosa is a 'big cork' in their bottle. The other big problem is that all conflict takes place in time; China is in no hurry which is at odds with Western culture. We, in the West, like to settle things more quickly than 50 years+ down the line. The Sino power establishment understands it has no equivalent navy capable of head to head conflict at sea, yet, and is biding its time to develop its military infrastructure to maintain what it is continuing since the illegal acquisition of Tibet...over 50 years ago __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

08-25-15, 01:34 PM	#3
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,095 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Today the Cows Lick tomorrow the Mediterranean... http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/15/china-russia-navy-joint-sea-2015-asia-pivot-blowback/ On May 11, nine ships from the Russian Navy and China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) kicked off 10 days of combined exercises in the Mediterranean Sea, for their first joint naval war games in European waters. What does this nautical confab, dubbed “Joint Sea 2015,” entail? “Maritime defense, maritime replenishment, escort actions, joint operations to safeguard navigation security as well as real weapon firing drill,” according to Sr. Col. Geng Yansheng, a spokesman for China’s Defense Ministry. The aim of the exercises is to “further deepen friendly and practical interaction between the two countries,” maintained the Russian Defense Ministry. Moscow added that the drills “are not aimed against any third country.” __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

10-14-15, 03:12 PM	#5
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,095 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	FIRST TIBET; THEN THE WORLD! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

10-14-15, 03:55 PM	#6
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	On serious note, the balance of power is changing in the region. Though it is not as obvious in that islands scenario, it is much more obvious in the Taiwan one, primarily due to the BM build up by PRC. __________________ Grumpy as always.

10-14-15, 06:06 PM	#7
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,573 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Can easily imagine a situation where America has sent a warship inside China's 12 nautical miles limit(forgot what the real word is), to say to China- We do not recognize your "claim" and this minor psychological naval battle could very well go out of control. Markus Last edited by mapuc; 10-14-15 at 06:20 PM.