Niburu, Devil, Freemasons, UFOs..

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Oberon

mapuc...have you had a visit lately or something? I'm noticing a trend in your threads.

Yeah. You're not building a replica of the Devil's Tower in your living room by any chance?

[mapuc]

No visit(do not believe in UFO's), no drinking or smoking funny stuff.

I just love science about space and conspiracy from and around space.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Threads merged.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Threads merged.

Thank you

Guess it's not the right place to ask this question-Guess I have to ask a psychologist or a psychiatrist specializing in this field.

I'm 110 % sure it is not a UFO they have seen.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Well it is a UFO until identified. UFO does not equal flying saucer and aliens.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well it is a UFO until identified. UFO does not equal flying saucer and aliens.

True-but in these cases the UFO is from another planet-and I don't believe in UFO from another planets.

As some expert said in one of these programs. If some one saw the B2 before it was known or the F117 stealth fighter-they may have thought it was a alien UFO.

If it had been me-I would have thought/maybe speaking quietly to myself-What kind of aircraft is that-It is a UFO-until I know what it is and it is man made.

Markus

[mapuc]

Do you think they will hit the jackpot ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...listen-project

The 10 year project will use open data and software, and work with teams at the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia, United States, and the Parkes Telescope in Australia to try to find signals that might be being broadcast by civilisations across the galaxy, whether from planets or machine-based AI.

Markus

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Do you think they will hit the jackpot ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...listen-project



Markus

There's a whole lot of sky out there, and light, whilst being mind-bogglingly fast, has still got a lot of way to go.

Heck, we might discover a civilization, but by the time we actually get a probe to them they might have nuked themselves into oblivion.

Equally, it would probably be better, if we do find something...just to watch it rather than try to call it over...


Anyway, since we're in this area, here's one for mapuc:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Anyway, since we're in this area, here's one for mapuc:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

Ahh. Rendlesham. The British Roswell. They've cover-upped the truth all these years, but now it's coming out. This time is really it.

UFO researcher John Hanson said he found Col Halt to be a reliable witness and there had been a "concerted effort to hide the truth".

Ever noticed how alien craft are covert enough to avoid detection by means which would provide conclusive evidence of their existence, yet clumsy enough to be seen and photographed from a distance and occasionally picked up on radar? I guess we can speculate on the supposed motives of hypothetical aliens, but it's easier to speculate on the supposed motives of the UFO authors. Closure either way on the UFO question spells the end of the authors' gravy train. Funny isn't it, how the aliens always seem to behave in the manner that perpetuates the debate for years and thus best serves the long term goals of the guy pushing UFO book and videos?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Ever noticed how alien craft are covert enough to avoid detection by means which would provide conclusive evidence of their existence, yet clumsy enough to be seen and photographed from a distance and occasionally picked up on radar? I guess we can speculate on the supposed motives of hypothetical aliens, but it's easier to speculate on the supposed motives of the UFO authors. Closure either way on the UFO question spells the end of the authors' gravy train. Funny isn't it, how the aliens always seem to behave in the manner that perpetuates the debate for years and thus best serves the long term goals of the guy pushing UFO book and videos?

Nonsense. That kind of thinking is way to logical and should be suppressed.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

There's a whole lot of sky out there, and light, whilst being mind-bogglingly fast, has still got a lot of way to go.

Heck, we might discover a civilization, but by the time we actually get a probe to them they might have nuked themselves into oblivion.

Equally, it would probably be better, if we do find something...just to watch it rather than try to call it over...


Anyway, since we're in this area, here's one for mapuc:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

I noticed one thing -Near a airbase in this case an American.

Almost all stories I have heard about UFO sightings have been made near an airbase or some other military installations and at night or near sunset.

1980 ? What new military jet plane was under construction/development ?

In my mind there is no doubt that this person or these persons have been witness to some "trial" version of a new fighter jets. (that of course could be the answer to my former question-what is it they have seen)

Yes maybe the radar-guy can confirm his story-
Well do they tell an ordinary radar-guy that the Air force will be doing some flight test in this or this area at this time period ?

There is always a natural or technical explanation to these sightings



Markus

[Oberon]

There were a lot of rumours about F-117s and B-2s making visits to Woodbridge and Bentwaters back in the day, I could have sworn I saw an F-117 on the runway once but it was late in the day, I was in a passing car and my eyes were probably deceiving me.
I've been to the site in question, and I have very strong doubts about the Orford Ness lighthouse theory, but I couldn't say for certain exactly what happened at Bentwaters, as Torplexed puts it, it's Britains Roswell incident.
There's been a fair few anaprop sightings by radar operators at the Anglian bases over the years, some can be put down to new unit testing, others are a little bit harder to explain, especially the ones that go up to several thousands of miles per hour. We know about the SR-71 now, I wonder what was the next step from the SR-71, the fabled 'Aurora' of legend and whether we'll ever know the full story behind her.

The MOD did a report into the unidentified airplane sightings, to quote wikipedia:

One of the Working Papers is entitled ""BLACK" AND OTHER AIRCRAFT AS UAP EVENTS". It says "it is acknowledged that some UAP sightings can be attributed to covert aircraft programmes". The report lists three "Western" programmes which might result in this – all of which appear to be American. The first – not surprisingly – is the SR-71. Programme 2 and Programme 3 are redacted from the report – even their names are withheld. Two photos are also redacted. This was reported on June 14, 2006 by BBC Newsnight.

Could well be that 'Aurora' is the precursor to the SR-72, like the initial 'Have Blue' prototypes to the 'Senior Trend' F-117.

[mapuc]

Thank you for your answer.

Take an ordinary person who only knows a plane have wings and engine, and can't see any different between two fighter jet(e.g F14 and F18)

This is what I think. A person without any clue about fighter jets seeing a Test of a new fighter jet= a UFO sightings

and then it turn into-Man see an alien UFO

Markus

[Betonov]

There are those that have the thought process: I do not know/understand, therefore aliens.

And then are those: I want to believe, therefore aliens.

I'm not a complete cynic. There might be aliens visiting us.
But 99 of 100 cases are just overblown rational ''incidents'' overblown by certain people. At least this kind of overzealousy is not dangerous.
A Penn and Teller episode was about Area 51 and UFO watchers and they were keen on making fun of them, but in the end they themsleves admited that these people were not crackpots, but a group that had a common hobby and the biggest effect they had was that they were hanging together and having fun.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

Britain's Roswell nothing new in the news story, odd why run it unless the BBC is behind the times.

Paranormal Witness | season 3| episode 20 | The Rendlesham Files



Seems to be copyright issues on Youtube you can view it but the screen size is small. I think it's more too do putting people off downloading it.


UPDATE FOUND A BETTER ONE TO VIEW HERE
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...D5E2D0EFEAAF0D