Life and Debt: A Greek Tragedy (merged) - Page 40

STEED · 07-13-15, 08:43 AM

That's a rap people see you at Greece crises 3 in a couple of years if not before.

About time Greece asked to see the EU accounts and ask them would they like a free 20 year celebration cake for not having their accounts audited.

Schroeder · 07-13-15, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Hi folks, just a quick jump-in, jump-out.

It's alive!!!!

Catfish · 07-13-15, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

It's alive!!!!

Yes, and with a load of complete nonsense, he must have gathered from Mises and Ayn Rand

The whole system is bollocks, not only Greece! What do you think happens, if ANY of the world's nations would be forced to pay its debts?
They would all be bankrupt, in a second!

But to accuse socialism for the debt of Greece is absolutely ridiculous. Not one rich guy in Greece pays taxes, this is why they are bankrupt. And don't tell me that just this is not the wet dream of any "capitalist"!

Mises blames governments for the fact that markets now are controlled by transnational Cartels. Why they don’t seem to consider the shareholders and controllers responsible remains an open question.

"It’s time to give free market capitalism and sound money a chance: it’s worked every time it’s been tried"

Betonov · 07-13-15, 01:57 PM

Runaway socialism will bankrupt the country.
Runaway capitalism will bankrupt the nation.

August · 07-13-15, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Runaway socialism will bankrupt the country.
Runaway capitalism will bankrupt the nation.

That's why i'm so fond of the saying:

"Gridlock is the best form of government for the common man"

Jimbuna · 07-13-15, 02:50 PM

Beginning to look like Tsipras has failed to deliver on any of his pre-election pledges and has given in to even more stringent measures than what were on offer prior to the referendum he called.

Britain is the third or fourth largest contributor to the EU budget (dependant on source used). At this rate the EU should be begging Cameron not to pull the UK out of the EU....somehow I doubt this will happen though.

Red Devil · 07-13-15, 03:55 PM

The EU have ripped up an agreement between the member nations and will be holding out the hat to member nations to COUGH UP!! Expected to cost UK £850 MILLION, and trhe risk of default is HIGH.

It seems that agreements are not worth the paper they are written on. The unelected commission are ordering!!!! states to cough up. Second word is off EU. UK pay 14% of the EU Budget.

Shame we cannot look after our own so generously.

Whatever the result of any referdum UK might, or might not have, Cameron is committed to the EU, he is a traitor to his people and will find any escuse to rip up the referendum.

mapuc · 07-13-15, 04:25 PM

As I see it, the crisis isn't over yet, it has only been postponed. The Greece parliament have to vote on these terms.

Markus

STEED · 07-13-15, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

Whatever the result of any referdum UK might, or might not have, Cameron is committed to the EU, he is a traitor to his people and will find any escuse to rip up the referendum.

No argument from me, that son of a bitch will stitch this country up like a kipper.

Oberon · 07-13-15, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

As I see it, the crisis isn't over yet, it has only been postponed. The Greece parliament have to vote on these terms.

Markus

From what I can tell of how the lines are formed in the Greek parliament at the moment there's enough in favour of the terms in order to get them through, but it's going to be ugly inside and outside of parliament. There's been a call for mass protests on Wednesday, and I expect that the Greek people will come out onto the streets to make their displeasure at this perceived betrayal by Tsipras. I can't see him remaining PM for long, in fact, if I were him I'd resign as soon as this agreement makes it through parliament. It's the only honourable way out.

Then it's over to the French and German parliaments to vote, and that's where it could get a little tighter, there's plenty in Germany who are against this deal, but I don't know how the coalitions lie in Germany enough to say either way how it will go. France has the not insignificant portion of the FN who will probably vote against it, but otherwise, again, I couldn't say yes or no for certain.

Jimbuna · 07-14-15, 10:03 AM

If this all goes through (which I suspect it will) let the French and the Italians (those who were all for the deal from the beginning of the meeting of EU leaders) foot the bill.

I'm pleased it looks like the UK won't be funding much if any of it.

Tspiras and his government won't see out the end of the year and I predict a Grexit before that deadline also.

Schroeder · 07-14-15, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm pleased it looks like the UK won't be funding much if any of it.

Tspiras and his government won't see out the end of the year and I predict a Grexit before that deadline also.

Funny, I must have missed the "Nazi" and "non solidary pigs that want to humiliate Greece" screaming when the UK decided that. Sure as hell always comes up when Germany is taking tough stance on Greece.

Oberon · 07-14-15, 11:16 AM

It really is stupid, the UK always seems to want to cherry pick its role in the EU. Wants to harvest the good stuff without taking the responsibility with the bad stuff.

No wonder the rest of Europe gets fed up with us, I would get fed up with us.

STEED · 07-14-15, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm pleased it looks like the UK won't be funding much if any of it.

Don't bank on it jim we have been down this road before.

UK..NO NO NO
EU..YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE
UK..OK

Rockstar · 07-14-15, 06:36 PM

But nobody goes around accusing the Brits of being members of the Legion of St. George either.

07-13-15, 08:43 AM	#586
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	That's a rap people see you at Greece crises 3 in a couple of years if not before. About time Greece asked to see the EU accounts and ask them would they like a free 20 year celebration cake for not having their accounts audited. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,185 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Beginning to look like Tsipras has failed to deliver on any of his pre-election pledges and has given in to even more stringent measures than what were on offer prior to the referendum he called. Britain is the third or fourth largest contributor to the EU budget (dependant on source used). At this rate the EU should be begging Cameron not to pull the UK out of the EU....somehow I doubt this will happen though. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-13-15, 03:55 PM	#592
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,541 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	The EU have ripped up an agreement between the member nations and will be holding out the hat to member nations to COUGH UP!! Expected to cost UK £850 MILLION, and trhe risk of default is HIGH. It seems that agreements are not worth the paper they are written on. The unelected commission are ordering!!!! states to cough up. Second word is off EU. UK pay 14% of the EU Budget. Shame we cannot look after our own so generously. Whatever the result of any referdum UK might, or might not have, Cameron is committed to the EU, he is a traitor to his people and will find any escuse to rip up the referendum. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

07-14-15, 10:03 AM	#596
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,185 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	If this all goes through (which I suspect it will) let the French and the Italians (those who were all for the deal from the beginning of the meeting of EU leaders) foot the bill. I'm pleased it looks like the UK won't be funding much if any of it. Tspiras and his government won't see out the end of the year and I predict a Grexit before that deadline also. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Runaway socialism will bankrupt the country. Runaway capitalism will bankrupt the nation.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,595 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	As I see it, the crisis isn't over yet, it has only been postponed. The Greece parliament have to vote on these terms. Markus

07-14-15, 11:16 AM	#598
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It really is stupid, the UK always seems to want to cherry pick its role in the EU. Wants to harvest the good stuff without taking the responsibility with the bad stuff. No wonder the rest of Europe gets fed up with us, I would get fed up with us.

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	But nobody goes around accusing the Brits of being members of the Legion of St. George either.