Troll Farm

August · 06-03-15, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

See, the paranoia-sowing part is working already, tovarisch.

You really think this is just disinformation? Seems to me that such a program, if it exists would be increasingly effective as more and more folks move away from traditional media news to twitter feeds and other internet sources.

Schroeder · 06-03-15, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by August

You really think this is just disinformation? Seems to me that such a program, if it exists would be increasingly effective as more and more folks move away from traditional media news to twitter feeds and other internet sources.

Do you guys remember that we've had a Russian member here who appeared just as the Crimea crisis swung into high gear, made over a thousand posts and then disappeared again without a trace as things settled?

CCIP · 06-03-15, 09:32 AM

Now let's be fair - one of the dangerous things to assume is that anybody who espouses those opinions is necessarily a paid shill/troll. The issue is that there are a lot of people who actually genuinely have those views, and in many regards, that's a much more dangerous thing. And then there are still plenty of trolls will often troll for the sake of trolling.

Are there troll farms like this? Absolutely. But let's not put everything remotely pro-Russian into the troll farm bin now. That's a far more dangerous thing.

And if you're talking about ikalugin, nah, I know him from other forums, both English and Russian. And if he's paid to do that, he's surprisingly good - and a troll of that quality would probably deployed somewhere a little more trafficked than Subsim or Battlefront forums.

Schroeder · 06-03-15, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

And if you're talking about ikalugin, nah, I know him from other forums, both English and Russian. And if he's paid to do that, he's surprisingly good - and a troll of that quality would probably deployed somewhere a little more trafficked than Subsim or Battlefront forums.

I was.

However I wouldn't even call him a troll. I just found his timing of arrival and departure to be very convenient and I had at that time just heard reports about paid people who would wage a positive image war for Russia on social networks.

August · 06-03-15, 06:48 PM

Well the article did happen to be about a Petersburg based troll farm but I certainly don't believe that the Russians are the only ones doing this. I would think that not only other nations, mine included, but corporations as well might find it useful to promote or hinder various agendas.

As we have talked about here many times people are more and more getting their news from other sources rather than from the traditional professional media outlets and I believe it is a situation that is increasingly ripe for such exploitation.

People of all nationalities need to understand that what they're reading online may be deliberate misinformation. The more controversial the subject the more likely that organizations will be actively trying to distort the picture to their own benefit and/or to damage their opponents.

mapuc · 06-03-15, 06:54 PM

In such case it's god that ignore is at hand.

Markus

Buddahaid · 06-03-15, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

In such case it's god that ignore is at hand.

Markus

I'm not getting the translation.

ExFishermanBob · 06-09-15, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

In such case it's god that ignore is at hand.

Markus

On a few mailing lists that I administered, one could have a 'twit-list' to which abusive or trolling subscribers could be added: those on it could post and see their postings as usual, but others could not. What was interesting is that they would usually not notice that nobody was replying to them.

Hello...anyone there? (Ho ho)

06-03-15, 09:32 AM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Now let's be fair - one of the dangerous things to assume is that anybody who espouses those opinions is necessarily a paid shill/troll. The issue is that there are a lot of people who actually genuinely have those views, and in many regards, that's a much more dangerous thing. And then there are still plenty of trolls will often troll for the sake of trolling. Are there troll farms like this? Absolutely. But let's not put everything remotely pro-Russian into the troll farm bin now. That's a far more dangerous thing. And if you're talking about ikalugin, nah, I know him from other forums, both English and Russian. And if he's paid to do that, he's surprisingly good - and a troll of that quality would probably deployed somewhere a little more trafficked than Subsim or Battlefront forums. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-03-15, 06:48 PM	#5
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,222 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well the article did happen to be about a Petersburg based troll farm but I certainly don't believe that the Russians are the only ones doing this. I would think that not only other nations, mine included, but corporations as well might find it useful to promote or hinder various agendas. As we have talked about here many times people are more and more getting their news from other sources rather than from the traditional professional media outlets and I believe it is a situation that is increasingly ripe for such exploitation. People of all nationalities need to understand that what they're reading online may be deliberate misinformation. The more controversial the subject the more likely that organizations will be actively trying to distort the picture to their own benefit and/or to damage their opponents. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

06-03-15, 06:54 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,548 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	In such case it's god that ignore is at hand. Markus