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Old 06-02-15, 06:37 AM   #1
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Very sad, but with the utmost respect, what on earth goes through a persons mind that they ignore warning signs in relation to a predator such as a lion.

Does one go swim in the sea when you see Great Whites and are warned not to, yet still do. Simply does not make sense at all.

And what more can the authorities of these parks do. Some on talk radio have suggested that cars entering these parks should have their windows taped and if any tape is found to be brocken on leaving a heavy fine is imposed. Well of course, that will only work for the ones who survived.

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Old 06-02-15, 06:45 AM   #2
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If they don't survive they could always sell their car instead of fining them, and let the French in for free if they have a bicycle.
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Old 06-02-15, 06:58 AM   #3
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...let the French in for free if they have a bicycle.
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Terribly tragic but not totally unexpected when reading the circumstances.
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Will park officials now set out to track and kill the poor loin now?
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Will park officials now set out to track and kill the poor loin now?
I'm sure some of them are tracking down loins frequently but I doubt they kill them.

Sorry couldn't resist but the story is a definite Darwin award.
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As a medic, we used to refer to people like this as "Job Security".

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In the fire service, we call it job security. I've seen so much stupid people, that nothing stupid really surprises me.
This also reminds me of when I was doing some hurricane relief in Louisiana. The cafeteria tent had a sign that said, "The closer you are to an alligator's jaws, the lower you are on the food chain."
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The victim to this incident has been named as 29 year old Katherine Chappell. She was a TV editor who worked on a number of big hit tv productions such as the current "Game of Thrones", "Captain America" etc. The police have taken her camera in to process as it appears according to witnesses to the incident she had her window fully down and was taking pics of this lioness as it started to walk towards her. It apparently climbed right into the car. The tour guide with her in the car tried to ward off the lioness and was himself seriously injured. He is in hospital in ICU and has on top of this had a heart attack. Well that does not surprise me at all.

Katherine Chappel according to reports was a keen nature conservationist and had raised money for animals here in SA. So she obviously was not an ignoramus to the wild side of nature.
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Would pepper spray help in such a situation ???

The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.
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Old 06-03-15, 08:01 AM   #10
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Would pepper spray help in such a situation ???

The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.
I doubt it. My reasoning would be that it would just piss the beast off even more. She is in an extremely strange and confined space and would in all probability lash out at anything that so much as moved.

They say if one gets caught out in an open space with a lion your best chance of survival is firstly do not move at all. And to face it. Easy said than done I know - while you are busy losing your bowels
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not sure what happened, but it is not just keeping the windows open. I have had several friends who have gone on african safaris and they tour parks in open vehicles like this:



A friend who went last year told me a pride was around the jeep less than 6 feet away and totally ignored them.

Apparently, according to the park employees, as long as the persons inside do not move or call out, the lions do not see them and only "see" the jeep. However, calling out is dangerous since a lion may attack once it realises there are actually people inside the jeep.
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The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.
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I doubt it. My reasoning would be that it would just piss the beast off even more. She is in an extremely strange and confined space and would in all probability lash out at anything that so much as moved.
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http://www.udap.com/othertestimonials.htm SERIOUSLY nasty stuff designed to counter an 'apex predator"; not allowed for use on humans...DAMN???!!
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