Some basic questions about enemy visible and radar range distances

MCM · 05-12-15, 08:10 AM

What I found out:

Hearing range is about 4km at driving speed 3, 1,5km at driving speed 2. Sight range at good weather at daytime is about 8-10km. Can someone confirm? And the distance for hearing the ping sound for measuring the deepth?

THX
McM

mobucks · 05-12-15, 09:34 AM

Look man I'm not going to tell you how to play but my perspective is it takes something away from the gameplay to know exact figures like you're asking for.

Real captains had to rely on intuition and standard operating procedures when engaging the enemy.

Part of the excitement comes from seeing how well you are able to stealth around without being seen/heard. All of which can be improved through learning "on the job" without knowing the exact figures you're asking for.

I guarantee with a bit of experience you will be able to rely on your own judgement for any scenario you face.

Good Luck!

maillemaker · 05-12-15, 01:49 PM

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How far can a destroyer hear my ping to determine my deep?

If you are asking about your depth finder, in SH3 escorts could not hear it at all. I don't know about SH5.

Steve

gap · 05-12-15, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maillemaker

If you are asking about your depth finder, in SH3 escorts could not hear it at all. I don't know about SH5.

Steve

U-boat active sonar (S-gerat/Nibelung), can't be detected either in SH5 by enemy ships. But this device was hardly used on type VII u-boats.

On the contrary, the echolot (the device used for measuring the depth under the keel), will give up u-boat's position in any enemy naval unit is in range.

Anyway I think MCM was asking how close an enemy destroyer must be in order to detect our boat's depth with her own ASDIC.

THEBERBSTER · 05-13-15, 05:15 AM

At 80 metres I would say is the minimum depth.

The orange hydrophone sensor at this depth will have disappeared on the DD.

You can do some testing using Historical Missions and in TDW's Options File Editor Viewer in both of the Map Tabs you can enable each of the contacts sensors in turn and see how they work in your game.

I took out the BB in Norway medium fog outside when coming up from this depth and they never knew I was there.

I went down to 134 metres with 9 DD's trying to find me and even passing over and not depth charging.

All the depth charging, plenty of it, was random.

I sneaked away at 1 knot at this depth changing course every 15 minutes.

Realism > High 82%

Peter

mobucks · 05-13-15, 05:55 AM

Don't forget that the crew level (rookie to elite) and the crew state (alerted or non) has a lot to do with how well they can find you.

I have during my current patrol a small !TASK FORCE! of two armed merchant cruisers (the troopship) and these pigs must be elites, since during the past 5 attempts to sink even one of these suckers at night in perfect conditions (for me) they always end up spotting me; last time I tried to fire from the hip at one and the other rams by boat killing it instantly. (I was at PD on a moonless night)

This is the same career/same mods where just last patrol I was able to con my boat on the surface at 12kts willy nilly through a large troop convoy in even less favorable conditions. We're talking passing ships 100m astern, with his buddy behind him staring right at me.

maillemaker · 05-13-15, 12:24 PM

Quote:

On the contrary, the echolot (the device used for measuring the depth under the keel), will give up u-boat's position in any enemy naval unit is in range.

This is different from SH3 then.

Steve

THE_MASK · 05-15-15, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobucks

Don't forget that the crew level (rookie to elite) and the crew state (alerted or non) has a lot to do with how well they can find you.

I have during my current patrol a small !TASK FORCE! of two armed merchant cruisers (the troopship) and these pigs must be elites, since during the past 5 attempts to sink even one of these suckers at night in perfect conditions (for me) they always end up spotting me; last time I tried to fire from the hip at one and the other rams by boat killing it instantly. (I was at PD on a moonless night)

This is the same career/same mods where just last patrol I was able to con my boat on the surface at 12kts willy nilly through a large troop convoy in even less favorable conditions. We're talking passing ships 100m astern, with his buddy behind him staring right at me.

Yep , totally unpredictable from one contact to the next . The beauty of SH5 . Also crew fatigue with mods .

05-13-15, 05:15 AM	#5
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	At 80 metres I would say is the minimum depth. The orange hydrophone sensor at this depth will have disappeared on the DD. You can do some testing using Historical Missions and in TDW's Options File Editor Viewer in both of the Map Tabs you can enable each of the contacts sensors in turn and see how they work in your game. I took out the BB in Norway medium fog outside when coming up from this depth and they never knew I was there. I went down to 134 metres with 9 DD's trying to find me and even passing over and not depth charging. All the depth charging, plenty of it, was random. I sneaked away at 1 knot at this depth changing course every 15 minutes. Realism > High 82% Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

05-12-15, 08:10 AM	#1
MCM Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 210 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 0	What I found out: Hearing range is about 4km at driving speed 3, 1,5km at driving speed 2. Sight range at good weather at daytime is about 8-10km. Can someone confirm? And the distance for hearing the ping sound for measuring the deepth? THX McM

05-12-15, 09:34 AM	#2
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Look man I'm not going to tell you how to play but my perspective is it takes something away from the gameplay to know exact figures like you're asking for. Real captains had to rely on intuition and standard operating procedures when engaging the enemy. Part of the excitement comes from seeing how well you are able to stealth around without being seen/heard. All of which can be improved through learning "on the job" without knowing the exact figures you're asking for. I guarantee with a bit of experience you will be able to rely on your own judgement for any scenario you face. Good Luck!

05-13-15, 05:55 AM	#6
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Don't forget that the crew level (rookie to elite) and the crew state (alerted or non) has a lot to do with how well they can find you. I have during my current patrol a small !TASK FORCE! of two armed merchant cruisers (the troopship) and these pigs must be elites, since during the past 5 attempts to sink even one of these suckers at night in perfect conditions (for me) they always end up spotting me; last time I tried to fire from the hip at one and the other rams by boat killing it instantly. (I was at PD on a moonless night) This is the same career/same mods where just last patrol I was able to con my boat on the surface at 12kts willy nilly through a large troop convoy in even less favorable conditions. We're talking passing ships 100m astern, with his buddy behind him staring right at me.