Jeb

[Bilge_Rat]

interesting profile on Jeb written by a reporter (S.V.Date) who covered him for 8 years in Florida. The reporter does not agree with his politics, but clearly respects him:

The word “relentless” doesn’t begin to explain this Bush. I’ve yet to encounter any other politician as smart, as driven, as self-disciplined, as organized, as single-minded about his goals—or as certain about his views.

And when it came to dealing with the press corps, Bush wasn’t afraid to let that certainty shine through. He’s almost always the smartest guy in the room—and he made sure to remind us of that in news conference after news conference, eviscerating reporters who came unprepared or with wishy-washy questions. In politics, Bush has always seen the world starkly—you’re either with him or you’re against him. And the press, he was convinced, was usually against him.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...#ixzz3YX3BntOI

personally, if it comes down to a choice between Jeb and Hilary in the White House, I would rather see Jeb get in.

[Mr Quatro]

Yeah boy Jeb Bush is my main man to beat the lady queen of spades.

I started to like Rubio too with his quick wit of talking about Hillary's camp talking about raising 2 billion dollars for her campaign in the next 15 months. He said, "That's a lot of Chipotle"

Sunday news show on ABC with George Stanalapolous had a guest that wrote the book "Clinton Cash" and he said that he had something on Jeb Bush too with shady stock dealings overseas.

The mud is coming fast ... I wish my TV had a truth meter. Didn't George Orwell say these days would come?

Apple should go to work on an app that can discern the truth. That would be a watch worth buying.

[Catfish]

I wonder, how it could be possible in a "democracy", that whole families apply for and become "president", one after another.

Surely there can be no better man or woman around, in the whole United States of America

[Oberon]

Jeb for President, I mean, what could go wrong?

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I wonder, how it could be possible in a "democracy", that whole families apply for and become "president", one after another.

Surely there can be no better man or woman around, in the whole United States of America

Maybe there is and maybe there isn't but either way I submit that such things are the essence of democracy. No citizen of a free country should be prevented from running for pubic office because of their last name.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Jeb for President, I mean, what could go wrong?

Jeb, being the equivalent of the Duke of Strelsau, probably wishes ol' Dubya had been sent down Jacobs ladder.

[Platapus]

I dunno. The idea of both houses and the executive being of the same party (any party) does not bode well for the country.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

Maybe there is and maybe there isn't but either way I submit that such things are the *essence of democracy. No citizen of a free country should be prevented from running for pubic office because of their last name.

So you say members of the same family can become the leading persons or president again and again, over 30 years, and more.

For me it looks as if other probably more competent persons are effectively hindered to get a chance to become president, by an election system very much alike the "Kurfuersten" in Germany some hundred years ago. Where certain aristocratic and rich influential people were allowed to choose ..

*essence of democracy

For me this looks like "family throne succession"

[Oberon]

North America is best America.

[Bilge_Rat]

The big problem with the U.S. electoral system is that you need enormous amounts of money to run for President. Obama and Romney each raised over $1 billion for the 2012 election. That severely limits the field, even before the race starts, you need someone with national name recognition.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

So you say members of the same family can become the leading persons or president again and again, over 30 years, and more.

For me it looks as if other probably more competent persons are effectively hindered to get a chance to become president, by an election system very much alike the "Kurfuersten" in Germany some hundred years ago. Where certain aristocratic and rich influential people were allowed to choose ..


For me this looks like "family throne succession"

I imagine a lot of what we do here in the Land of the Free sounds strange to you foreigners.

What laws in Germany prevent say relatives of Merkel or Kohl etc from seeking their predecessors office?

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by August

I imagine a lot of what we do here in the Land of the Free sounds strange to you foreigners.

You know, from where I'm sitting I often wonder the same thing about the US.
Especially after having a long talk with my in-law from Montana.

Shame, I came here to agree with you on how I don't care what's the last name the next president has, even if it's Bush, which makes me an endangered specie in Europe, only to see your blinkered horse rhetoric about the lack of liberty in Europe from a man that lives in a country with the biggest rate of incarcerated people per capita in the world.

[Oberon]

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Betonov

You know, from where I'm sitting I often wonder the same thing about the US.
Especially after having a long talk with my in-law from Montana.

... in a country with the biggest rate of incarcerated people per capita in the world.

I think it has more to do how things are added up. If you compare incarciration rates of all 50 independant states to say one independant state like Slovenia. Ya the incarciration rates will seem pretty lopsided.

But before royalty begins to pat themselves on the back. They might want to compare Union to Union such as United States to the United Kingdom EXCLUDING the E.U. They'll soon see incarciration rates are quite comparable. Using my poor math skills and wikipedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...rceration_rate as my source I find the there are 2348 persons in jail per 100,000 in the United States and 2353 persons per 100,000 in the United Kingdom.

So bite me.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

So bite me.

I can't. My dentures are still in-grown.

The point I was trying to make that Slovenia is also land of the free.
We have a parliament. And a constituition. And a president.
And people that toppled a government because speed traps were considered to opressive.
And I don't like un-educated guesses about my country since I'm allowed to counter these un-educated guesses. Because I'm a citizen of a free nation