Need help shooting two targets at the same time.

Crannogman · 04-04-15, 06:38 PM

Presumably you are using manual targetting, correct?

james_nix · 04-04-15, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crannogman

Presumably you are using manual targetting, correct?

Yes

Sniper297 · 04-04-15, 09:50 PM

"then lock on too the second one, click range, speed, AOB on the TDC all over again. It seems like that is a lot of work and precious time if the info is exactly the same."

The range, speed, and AOB should be close enough that all you should need to do is lock the second target and click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button. You can also use the "seaman's eye" (AKA Kentucky Windage) to compensate, set the crosshairs just ahead of or just behind the target and click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button. Main thing is (1) make sure the outer doors are open before starting the attack, if you let the automatic gadget open the outer doors for you it does NOT update the gyro angles to compensate for the firing delay so it's a guaranteed miss. (2) fire a spread, either by using the gyro angle offset or (better) shifting the scope a few degrees and clicking the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button again between each shot. And (3) when you think you're close enough get closer - you'll get a lot more hits at 500-1000 yard range than you will at 3000 yards because the target has less time to see the wakes and maneuver to avoid the fish.

Crannogman · 04-04-15, 10:29 PM

How far out can the AI spot a torpedo wake?

Sniper297 · 04-05-15, 11:07 AM

Depends on the sea state and visibility. At night when the water is choppy and the wind is kicking up spray and whitecaps they might never see the wake at all, but in clear weather daylight with calm seas they can see the wakes from as far as 4000 yards. A Mark 14 set for high speed goes about 1500 yards per minute, so if you shoot from 1000 yards the target has about 40 seconds to detect and react. 500 yards gives him 20 seconds, time enough to say "EEEK!" but not much else. 2000 yards gives him one minute and 20 seconds, which is often enough. Attacking at night in choppy seas I have gotten a good percentage of hits with overlapping targets from 8000 yards with the fish set for low speed, but anything over 2500 yards in the daytime you need a lot of luck to actually hit anything except anchored ships.

When you think you're close enough, get closer.

merc4ulfate · 04-05-15, 07:44 PM

It is easy. With all doors open fire at the first then move the scope ten degrees towards the next one and fire at it too..

Sniper297 · 04-05-15, 08:53 PM

That's with auto targeting, with manual targeting you need to click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button each time you move the scope, if you don't the gyros will send the next fish toward the previous target instead of the current one. That's the way it was done in real life too - range, bearing, AOB, target speed all entered, TDC tracking, "Final bearing and shoot, up scope!" Center crosshairs, click button, fire one, fire two, "shift targets!" - aim crosshairs at second target, forget speed range and AOB, just click the button to send the all important new bearing to TDC and fire away.

04-04-15, 06:38 PM	#1
Crannogman Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 343 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Presumably you are using manual targetting, correct? __________________ "The sea shall ride over her and she shall live in it like a duck" ~John Ericsson

04-04-15, 10:29 PM	#4
Crannogman Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 343 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	How far out can the AI spot a torpedo wake? __________________ "The sea shall ride over her and she shall live in it like a duck" ~John Ericsson

04-05-15, 07:44 PM	#6
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	It is easy. With all doors open fire at the first then move the scope ten degrees towards the next one and fire at it too.. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

04-04-15, 09:50 PM	#3
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	"then lock on too the second one, click range, speed, AOB on the TDC all over again. It seems like that is a lot of work and precious time if the info is exactly the same." The range, speed, and AOB should be close enough that all you should need to do is lock the second target and click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button. You can also use the "seaman's eye" (AKA Kentucky Windage) to compensate, set the crosshairs just ahead of or just behind the target and click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button. Main thing is (1) make sure the outer doors are open before starting the attack, if you let the automatic gadget open the outer doors for you it does NOT update the gyro angles to compensate for the firing delay so it's a guaranteed miss. (2) fire a spread, either by using the gyro angle offset or (better) shifting the scope a few degrees and clicking the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button again between each shot. And (3) when you think you're close enough get closer - you'll get a lot more hits at 500-1000 yard range than you will at 3000 yards because the target has less time to see the wakes and maneuver to avoid the fish.

04-05-15, 11:07 AM	#5
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Depends on the sea state and visibility. At night when the water is choppy and the wind is kicking up spray and whitecaps they might never see the wake at all, but in clear weather daylight with calm seas they can see the wakes from as far as 4000 yards. A Mark 14 set for high speed goes about 1500 yards per minute, so if you shoot from 1000 yards the target has about 40 seconds to detect and react. 500 yards gives him 20 seconds, time enough to say "EEEK!" but not much else. 2000 yards gives him one minute and 20 seconds, which is often enough. Attacking at night in choppy seas I have gotten a good percentage of hits with overlapping targets from 8000 yards with the fish set for low speed, but anything over 2500 yards in the daytime you need a lot of luck to actually hit anything except anchored ships. When you think you're close enough, get closer.

04-05-15, 08:53 PM	#7
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	That's with auto targeting, with manual targeting you need to click the "Send range and bearing to TDC" button each time you move the scope, if you don't the gyros will send the next fish toward the previous target instead of the current one. That's the way it was done in real life too - range, bearing, AOB, target speed all entered, TDC tracking, "Final bearing and shoot, up scope!" Center crosshairs, click button, fire one, fire two, "shift targets!" - aim crosshairs at second target, forget speed range and AOB, just click the button to send the all important new bearing to TDC and fire away.