Germanwings Airbus Crashed in France

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

My God, how desperate must one have to be to do this.

full blown desperate

He probably got rejected by some girl or something and now he is really showing her

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

full blown desperate

He probably got rejected by some girl or something and now he is really showing her

I would be careful with remarks like that.
You obviously don't know how dark and desperate a human soul can become.
What he did was flat out murder and is inexcusable since he caused so much pain, no doubt.
But as I said, depressive and sick people see and feel things, you, I assume from that post, can't even imagine.

It is easy to make him look like a silly heart broken teenager,
but the world isn't black and white and surely not that simple,
I know that much.

Maybe they will find out about it during the investigation.

[GoldenRivet]

1. Don't presume I've not experienced dark and deeply trying times in my own life

2. Remarks like what? I was being serious. One would have to be at their very limit of desperation. And yes, when a young man commits suicide or murder suicide it's usually the result of his failures with his love interests.

I don't mean to make him sound like a 16 year old kid having a rough time nabbing a prom date if that's what you mean... But generally speaking, failures - real or perceived - with the opposite sex can result in some pretty bizarre behaviors in people

Edit

Especially considering that his Facebook profile was deleted on or about the day of the crash

If he was plagued by darkness... The source was probably social based on current evidence

[Tchocky]

I don't know how to feel about this.

On the one hand this is shocking, deeply upsetting, and a sad reminder of how life can run out of your hands in a second.

On the other hand on a normal day I'd be looking after in or around a hundred A320-family aircraft so I'm relieved that there's no mechanical reason this happened.

Ach.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

1. Don't presume I've not experienced dark and deeply trying times in my own life

2. Remarks like what? I was being serious. One would have to be at their very limit of desperation. And yes, when a young man commits suicide or murder suicide it's usually the result of his failures with his love interests.

I don't mean to make him sound like a 16 year old kid having a rough time nabbing a prom date if that's what you mean... But generally speaking, failures - real or perceived - with the opposite sex can result in some pretty bizarre behaviors in people

Edit

Especially considering that his Facebook profile was deleted on or about the day of the crash

If he was plagued by darkness... The source was probably social based on current evidence

Then I simply misinterpreted your post, apologies!
(And I agree)

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by donna52522

All the victims facebook pages were taken down pending the investigation. All of them, including the co-pilots have been restored.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Andre...338783?fref=ts

I wouldn't have said that was his...unless it's either been hacked or he's posting from beyond...

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by donna52522

All the victims facebook pages were taken down pending the investigation. All of them, including the co-pilots have been restored.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Andre...338783?fref=ts

they should've stayed down considering the vultures from Bild will probably scour those pages now for pictures of the victims and publish them without consent from the victims families.

Not his, definitely not his.
A fake, I assume... used as a news portal it seems.

They wouldn't allow that with his real profile since...it was his profile and he's dead. No one except family may be allowed to post there. Not sure about the rules in a case like this, but I don't see why strangers would have legal access to a profile like that.

[mapuc]

Here's a story from the real life

A young couple moved into an apartment on the ground floor in the same house where my Mom lived..

First time I saw them, was the day they moved in

A few weeks later I was told from my Mom who their were and why they had moved

They usually lived in a big house on the country side. Their eldest daughter had leukemia and had to go through treatment on a nearby hospital.

About 1 year later they lost her.

The story could have ended here, but more disaster would hit that family

About 1-1½ year later, the wife and their youngest daughter was killed in a car accident.

This was more than the husband could handle..he start to drink and died of this..he so to say drowned him self in alcohol-by drinking like a hole.

What has this story to do with this thread ?
I'll tell you, he was a pilot flying for the Swedish Linjeflyg.

I remembered him and his family, when I heard about this co-pilot.

I was also thinking-if he hadn't started to drink, would he been fit for flying again ?

Markus

[donna52522]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Not his, definitely not his.
A fake, I assume... used as a news portal it seems.

They wouldn't allow that with his real profile since...it was his profile and he's dead. No one except family may be allowed to post there. Not sure about the rules in a case like this, but I don't see why strangers would have legal access to a profile like that.

Removing deceased account:

Verified immediate family members may request the removal of a loved one’s account from Facebook in event of death.

Facebook doesn't do it automatically.

[Oberon]

Just looked at this video:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32073318

It's pretty damning, if the co-pilot was having a health issue he would not have had his finger holding the switch down to lock in order to prevent the pilot from opening the door using the emergency override code. Since the aircraft was in a fairly controlled descent then there wouldn't have been any turbulence or G-forces to disable the pilot, so he would have had the opportunity in those eight minutes to use the emergency code.

What a selfish.... I'll stop there.

EDIT: It's also been discovered that the autopilot was set from 38,000ft to 100ft:
http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...re-dat?p=64616

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by donna52522

Removing deceased account:

Verified immediate family members may request the removal of a loved one’s account from Facebook in event of death.

Facebook doesn't do it automatically.

well then they got right on top of it if the family removed the account, according to the news article i read they would have deleted it immediately upon hearing of the crash.

according to reports the facebook page was deleted 2 days ago

now, is that old information or inaccurate? possibly

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Just looked at this video:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32073318

It's pretty damning, if the co-pilot was having a health issue he would not have had his finger holding the switch down to lock in order to prevent the pilot from opening the door using the emergency override code. Since the aircraft was in a fairly controlled descent then there wouldn't have been any turbulence or G-forces to disable the pilot, so he would have had the opportunity in those eight minutes to use the emergency code.

What a selfish.... I'll stop there.

EDIT: It's also been discovered that the autopilot was set from 38,000ft to 100ft:
http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...re-dat?p=64616

Oof, that last note in the video is going to lead to a lot of flak at Lufthansa. Hopefully the "two crew always in cockpit" rule is going to be introduced across the industry.

By the looks of it, we now have two nearly identical incidents in a year and a half, and pilot suicide still hasn't been definitively ruled out for MH370 either. I think the industry is going to have to face up to some questions here. I hope better mental healthcare for pilots and crew will be part of that equation.

[GoldenRivet]

MH370 could have been pilot suicide, but why take the airplane way the hell out to sea like that? why not just nose her on over and be done with it?


or better yet... why not just hang yourself in the privacy of your own home instead of taking a planeload of people down with you?

Pilots have used their aircraft in the past to commit suicide, but generally they have been the only people aboard

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

MH370 could have been pilot suicide, but why take the airplane way the hell out to sea like that? why not just nose her on over and be done with it?


or better yet... why not just hang yourself in the privacy of your own home instead of taking a planeload of people down with you?

Pilots have used their aircraft in the past to commit suicide, but generally they have been the only people aboard

I'm just extrapolating of course, there's no real evidence to back that up either. Still, even two incidents like that in recent memory, it's a lot. Something certainly ought to change to prevent it from happening.

I think part of the tragedy is also the tarnishing of the good name of airline pilots as a profession. I'd hate it if all these recent incidents build up a public distrust and fear of what's otherwise one of the world's most responsible professions