Airbus or Boeing ?

[GunnersMate]

I'm a sucker for F-14D. Can't beat 120mile AIM-54!

[Kapitan]

Shame the tomcat is now retired but at least a few examples still remain the ones that we may fight very soon in iran.

[I-25]

lets not forget tupelov with there exelent saftey record :rotfl:

[STEED]

[Kapitan]

TU22 Backfires they are very nice aircraft.

[STEED]

Four more Kapitain, hey I just like the Russian planes.

[Kapitan]

Nice pictures there i have a pic of a real life mig 21 that was in duxford

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

Nice pictures there i have a pic of a real life mig 21 that was in duxford

Same here, on one trip to Duxford a cold day got some good pics of a Mig 15 taking off.

[Kapitan]

Very nice

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by STEED

Same here, on one trip to Duxford a cold day got some good pics of a Mig 15 taking off.

Ahhhh the 15. Can't beat the origional! Probaly one of the few times the Soviets had a better aircraft than NATO.

Ahhhhh those were the days...

Also I've always been partial to the Su-15 Flagon.

[Kapitan]

Id take a boat theres been more air crashes than ferry accidents.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Ahhhh the 15. Can't beat the origional! Probaly one of the few times the Soviets had a better aircraft than NATO.

Ahhhhh those were the days...

Nice

The SU24 Fencer for me.

[Etienne]

Originally Posted by xrvjorn

Airplanes have backup systems for just about anything and are grounded for the slightest problems. When you read about passenger ferry accidents, you realise that some of them don't even have backups for basic stuff like radio and GPS. Compared to aviation, there's hardly any safety awareness at all on the sea. Ferrys scare me, I'd take an Airbus or Boeing anytime.

I think I'll print that out and post it in the ship's office next time I'm filling out some ISM forms. It might make me happier... Ah, screw it, it won't.

Have you ever been on a ship?

Have you ever heard of, say, SOLAS? GMDSS? ISM?

Ever heard of an emergency fire pump? That's a back up of the main fire pump. Same with the emergency generator - and you might have two or three mains. We also have batteries, too, because, you know, no safety conscience.

IMO says we need two radar, but that's only so we can hang laundry off the scanner - there's no way you can use the X band to back up the S band. And forget about using the radar to back up the GPS, that's waaaaaaay too complicated. We're too dumb to do that, because there's no convention on how trained and safety conscious we have to be.

Because, you know, STCW? Totally doesn't exist.

Oh yeah, the sextant's for show. No way we could use that as a backup for the GPS, I mean, what's that thing for, anyway? Let's just do like ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE and buy a second GPS. Hey, we'll even plug it into the GMDSS console and the batteries, so that the distress message already has a position in it! Cause we're too ****ing dumb not to sink!

Jesus christ, either you know what you're talking about, or you SHUT THE **** UP.

[Linton]

Here is a boeing pretending to be an Airbus:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga..._departure.wmv

[xrvjorn]

Originally Posted by Etienne

Jesus christ, either you know what you're talking about, or you SHUT THE frick UP.

Trying to impress us by mature language?

One of my friends lost his daughter on the "Estonia". "Estonia" COULD NOT transmit it's position since they lost the power supply for the GPS. They didn't even have a hand held unit for backup. Some interesting practices of the ferry lines around here where revealed after the accident, e g trucks where not secured against sliding in heavy weather.

After the fire on the "Scandinavian Star", a fire test was made on a section that either survived the fire on was rebuilt using the same materials (I don't remember which). Within 30 seconds, the section was filled with cyanide gas emitted from the burning plastics. Good luck trying to get an airplane certified with that choice of materials.