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Old 03-13-15, 06:06 PM   #46
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Then you have to ask you self. Is it them that are less intelligent or is it you the American voters that fall for what they say and vote for them ?

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Old 03-14-15, 09:28 AM   #47
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Are people on the right...less intelligent. Given that the majority of right wing people in my country are earning twice as much on average as the left wing... I'm starting to wonder whether the left wing people are intelligent in the right respects.
The thing is, a university professor in the left-leaning academy makes much less than a broker on right-leaning Wall Street. But I'd say it takes more intelligence and knowledge to do the former than the latter, thus it's a mistake to tie intelligence and knowledge to earning potential.

On the whole, people on the right and the left have the same general level of intelligence, defined as the ability to obtain knowledge.

However, if we define knowledge as having access to facts in your mind, then the left is more knowledgeable than the right. The right tends to accept fundamentalist religious dogma more, and reject science more. This happens less on the left.

Even comparing the far left to the far right, I would say the far left accepts more facts about the world than the right. "Capital" blows the bible out of the water in this regard.
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Old 03-14-15, 11:23 AM   #48
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^ also, an empathic person who cares for others, probably will hesitate to use his elbows, or to downright use force to eliminate another, even if this other one may be the pure evil.

I would say that the left as most of the people understand it, have shown no more mercy than right-wingers (speaking of Lenin and Stalin on the left and Hitler on the other) when it comes to mass slaughter and such.
However "the left" had at least some better scientific backup to justify their actions (revolution theories of Voltaire, Rousseau, or much later Marcuse. In this respect, any revolution had to be discussed, if the means to reach the goal for a better society, really justifies brute force and killing. If not, better let it go. It has not helped the ordinary man that much, though.)


Let me ask another question: Was Djinghis-Khan politically left, or right ?
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Old 03-14-15, 12:17 PM   #49
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Let me ask another question: Was Djinghis-Khan politically left, or right ?
He was right because there was no one left when he was done.
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He was right because there was no one left when he was done.
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He was right because there was no one left when he was done.
BlahLike after a war, when all that counts is who's left, not who was right blahblah. Hey do not try to be wisecrackier than me, i am trying desparately to build a monopoly out of that

But in a way you unintentionally answered it, brutality and bad behaviour is not reserved for one side, and not at all for any political one.

To have political sides means we can bash each other, while strongly evading the real qestions how the future should be formed.
Politicians do not have real answers, they are just riding on the inventions and ideas of other people.
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BlahLike after a war, when all that counts is who's left, not who was right blahblah. Hey do not try to be wisecrackier than me, i am trying desparately to build a monopoly out of that
Monopoly is something even the extreme left and right despise
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Monopoly is something even the extreme left and right despise

He must be a witch then, and we all know what do with witches?


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I never understood witc hunts.
A person has magical powers over matter and life and they burn them.
I'd employ them to further my gains, not waste time and fuel for a bonfire.
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"Are "extreme" right wing people less intelligent ?"

Yes.
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"Are "extreme" right wing people less intelligent ?"

Yes.
...and they are too unintelligent to know they are...


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But I'd say it takes more intelligence and knowledge to do the former than the latter, thus it's a mistake to tie intelligence and knowledge to earning potential.
And what makes you come to that conclusion? It is often stated: "Those that can, do. Those that cannot do - teach." Given some of the stuff so called "professors" come up with, I would strongly disagree that teaching takes some greater level of intelligence and knowledge.

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On the whole, people on the right and the left have the same general level of intelligence, defined as the ability to obtain knowledge. However, if we define knowledge as having access to facts in your mind, then the left is more knowledgeable than the right.
Assuming we can agree to put the occasional stupid misstatement aside, intelligence isn't just what one knows or "can" know - it is also how one makes use of that knowledge.

The left tends to ignore the facts of history, continually refuses to accept facts of science that does not fit its agenda, and often invents false "facts" to push a narrative that is (often known to be) untrue. Additionally, the left often refuses to observe facts even when it gives voice to them.

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The right tends to accept fundamentalist religious dogma more, and reject science more. This happens less on the left.
Come on - you can't be serious. 2 words for you.... Global Cooling - no wait - it became Global Warming. Oh darn it, sorry, its "Climate Change" now. Scientific facts (using NASA's own data) shows that "greenhouse gases" have not contributed to a warming of the environment. In fact, it shows that we have been in a cooling cycle for the last 17 YEARS. Study shows that almost globally, raw temperature data was "adjusted" upward to create an outcome not backed up by facts. That data - ignored by the left. Instead, data has been manipulated to create a desired outcome - a "false fact". Another "false fact" - the claim that the science was settled and that 97% of scientists agreed that global warming was real and man made. Turns out the WSJ fact checked that - and only ~1% actually believed that. The fact: 31,000 scientists signed documentation stating that:

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“there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."
Yet the left refuses to accept the facts and instead make up their own false "facts". Why? Because its a multi-billion dollar money making cash cow for them.

Maybe you don't like those examples? Lets try these:

Fact: Obama correctly states that he does not, per the Constitution, have the executive power to create amnesty for illegal aliens. Yet in the end - he ignores his own fact and attempts to do it anyway.

Fact: "Hands up, don't shoot" didn't happen. Yet the leftist race baiters and those who want to look like they care about minorities pushed this as fact. Not only did the left ignore those who tried to correct the error, those who were truthful were in fact threatened for telling the truth about what occurred.

Fact: Duke Rape Case - another leftist "get the privileged white boys" witch hunt that turned into a total fiasco when it turned out to be an entirely false accusation.

Fact: UVA Fraternity Rape - basically the Duke case all over again. A reporter who actually wanted to "find" this story, went looking and "found it", then didn't check it because it fit the leftist agenda (get the evil white boys) and ended up turning out to be a fabrication.

I could go on and on. Chicago, Detroit and many other cities being run by the left for decades, and the poor who are supposed to be the priority of the left are worse of than ever before? Failure to learn from history.

Fact: No majority of Americans have supported Obamacare at any time in its history. (Check realclearpolitics.com for that)

Fact: Obamacare has made health care MORE expensive for the middle class. Feel free to google that and just read the articles from CNN and CBS - hardly "conservative" paragons.....

etc. etc. etc.

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Even comparing the far left to the far right, I would say the far left accepts more facts about the world than the right.
Yea, you might want to rethink that claim given the above....
If you REALLY need more examples, feel free to ask.
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The extremes exist throughout history... was Charles Maurras unintelligent?? I don't think intelligence has any major correlation with any political school of thought in a way you can say one is more intelligent than the other. It is philosophy after all really.

Take specific examples of common people though at the extremes of any political movement, it will result in examples of ignorance, hatred, bigotry, xenophobia, intolerance of every kind.

No reason to judge a political movement based on the least of its followers, who do not always even understand the concepts they believe in.
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No reason to judge a political movement based on the least of its followers, who do not always even understand the concepts they believe in.
The extreme is always in the minority, but always the loudest.
That's the problem because they'll invent problems that don't exist or make mountains out of molehills to sway more moderates towards the extreme.
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