Does 1.6 still have "worldwide weather"

[Reckall]

You are basically telling me that since a model is broken IN ANOTHER GAME you feel justified to have a broken model in yours (if it rains in the Sahara it rains in Antarctica et. al.)

Sorry, but this is a game which boasts " Square off against the Soviet Union in the cold war confrontation, and against resurgent Russia in the new multipolar world order." (http://tinyurl.com/pap754a) This implies areas of conflict a tiny-weeny larger than my flat.

Even the first moves of a resurgent WWIII, done by a gamer who, he discovers, is forced to sport the same weather everywhere would end up in a farce. I'm sorry, but the ability to modify the temperature of the snowstorm over the Sahara Desert is not a badge of honour.

Deciding to put this problem at the end of the list of those you decide to tackle in the next patches (good luck, BTW!) is a legitimate choice which I respect. But don't try to change people's perception of reality to justify your choices. There are no snowstorms in the Middle East - end of the story.

[Sunburn]

So to sum up:

* Harpoon 2/3's weather model was very ambitious and promising but poorly/inadequately implemented. It also cannot be further fixed/improved since development has ceased.

* Command's weather model is less ambitious at the moment, but works exactly as designed and is widely used by scenario authors to provide extra challenges and opportunities in scenarios. Additional functionality has been requested by some players and it's on the developer team's plans for the future.

* People with fragile egos should actually play a game instead of blindly quoting manuals. It will help them to avoid public embarrassment.

Thanks

[Reckall]

Originally Posted by Sunburn

So to sum up:

* Harpoon 2/3's weather model was very ambitious and promising but poorly/inadequately implemented. It also cannot be further fixed/improved since development has ceased.

Whereas a company trying to create a similar game 21 years later is still unable to do the same, while bragging about global spanning scenarios.

Games like Dangerous Waters, and Harpoon are able to simulate multiple, distinct, and unique local weather conditions. It is significant to note that even failed game systems such as Naval War Arctic Circle can implement this vital function, while MNO cannot.

* Command's weather model is less ambitious at the moment, but works exactly as designed...

...As long as the scenario is in a *small area*, we know that.

* People with fragile egos should actually play a game instead of blindly quoting manuals.

I think you just tied your right shoe with your left one. Even forgetting the fact that there are games more worthy of play than Command out there, the aim of quoting H2 manual was simply to make a comparison.

Developers unable to program such basic wargame functions should spend their time playing games instead of trying to make them and doing it so badly.
It will save consumers money and developers public humiliation.

Thanks

You are welcome

[strykerpsg]

Originally Posted by Reckall

There are no snowstorms in the Middle East - end of the story.

A quick Google search of Middle East Snow provided these lovely shots......just saying.....

Pictured are Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya and United Arab Emirates. Perhaps not the entire Middle East, but a decent representation.

The last one is Hawaii, just to be well rounded. Now, where's that bag of apples? Someone needs feeding....

[Reckall]

I'm sorry, strykerpsg, and you are right. True, I listened to Herman without checking, because his experience (he travelled *all over* the World) is bigger than mine. Actually, he was talking about Command, while I thought he was talking about his experiences in ME Yet, I should have checked personally.

Command's weather model is still broken on areas bigger than my flat, and, BTW, both I and Herman still have to find a way to make it snow (so in Command you can't have a snowstorm, AFAIK). In any case, the one to blame here it's me.

I apologize,

Vincenzo

[Herman]

Originally Posted by Reckall

There are no snowstorms in the Middle East

I'm sorry. Vincenzo and I were discussing MNO's iso-weather system vs. Real World weather. I told Vincenzo that there were no snowstorms in the Middle East (or anywhere else in MNO's world), but they can occur in real life. I failed to make this distinction clear to him.