Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Oberon]

I imagine reloading might be a bit finicky though, getting the shells or individual bullets out of the stock. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, in an active shooter scenario that kind of delay gives the police time to react.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

in an active shooter scenario that kind of delay gives the police time to react.

Is that your professional opinion?

Just remember that this is a lever action that, judging by the tube length, holds maybe 15-20 rounds of 22LR and it can be adapted for a bunch of different calibers too. Then there's the .12ga shotgun as backup. It's a more capable weapon than it's looks may imply.

[antikristuseke]

According to the Chiappa website it is a double barrel over/under where both barrels are singel shot and there is no magazine.
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2677

[Aktungbby]

Correct! and the proper technique as with my single shot Sharps or trapdoor Springfield is to hold two extra rounds between the last two fingers of the trigger hand...in anticipation of a quick reload. Robert Redford amply demonstrates the technique in Out of Africa in the lion hunt scene with his double barreled rifle. Saves fumbling around in a clutch. I wish I owned that double barreled rifle! $100K and up these days if it's a Purdy!

[Mr Quatro]

I hope I put this in the right thread ... gun control is about guns too.

But this gun is very unique, even a blind man (pun) could use this gun.

X -Caliber® is designed for use in any condition and with any ammunition available.

Originally designed with two calibers, a rifled .22 LR and a smooth bore .12 GA -, this rifle can fire up to 12 different calibers thanks to the 8 steel adapters supplied.

In addition to the two original gauges, adapters allow you to shoot 8 pistol calibers ( .380 , 9 mm , .357Mag/.38SP , .40 S & W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP , .410/.45colt ) and two shotgun calibers (410 ga, 20ga), combining the flexibility of a shotgun and the power of a rifled gun.

all you need is a shooting vest with a pocket full bullets along with the optional adapter. Would this be legal to carry folded up in the trunk of the car?

There was a gun shop on TV out of Carlsbad, California (near Oceanside, California which is the US Marine base) that offers to sell you machine guns that are disassembled and it is legal.

Then they show you how to assemble the same gun they just sold you.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

Is that your professional opinion?

Just remember that this is a lever action that, judging by the tube length, holds maybe 15-20 rounds of 22LR and it can be adapted for a bunch of different calibers too. Then there's the .12ga shotgun as backup. It's a more capable weapon than it's looks may imply.

Well, I don't know about professional, but it's an opinion, I'll give it that.
It's a very adaptable weapon, the range of rounds it can fire is very impressive, but it looks like a single shot/reload function, although I might be wrong and you might be able to load multiple rounds.

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Correct! and the proper technique as with my single shot Sharps or trapdoor Springfield is to hold two extra rounds between the last two fingers of the trigger hand...in anticipation of a quick reload. Robert Redford amply demonstrates the technique in Out of Africa in the lion hunt scene with his double barreled rifle. Saves fumbling around in a clutch. I wish I owned that double barreled rifle! $100K and up these days if it's a Purdy!

Sounds like a throw-back to the old bow and arrow technique, but in the post-Winchester era the speed difference between a single-shot and a repeating rifle is fairly big. I mean, even between lever action and automatic, if you look at the difference in the amount of rounds that a Garand and a Lee Enfield can put down field in the space of a few minutes.
Interesting form of weapon though, I honestly had never heard of a double-barreled rifle until now, must sacrifice a bit of long range accuracy but in the situation that Redford is in then it works well, much like the double barrel shotgun which is more lethal the closer to it you are.

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I hope I put this in the right thread ... gun control is about guns too.

But this gun is very unique, even a blind man (pun) could use this gun.



all you need is a shooting vest with a pocket full bullets along with the optional adapter. Would this be legal to carry folded up in the trunk of the car?

There was a gun shop on TV out of Carlsbad, California (near Oceanside, California which is the US Marine base) that offers to sell you machine guns that are disassembled and it is legal.

Then they show you how to assemble the same gun they just sold you.

I think this thread was more about the contentious issue of gun control in the United States rather than an appreciation of firearms themselves. We have two other threads for that:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=205808

And

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=204019

Although the former is a bit more serious than the latter which was started as an expression of exasperation at the number of seperate gun threads which were started around that time.

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Thats why I prefer to keep a semi-auto handy in case the police cannot respond fast enough to an active shooter situation.

That's fair enough, and is your right as an American citizen. Although one does have to wonder that if you're pointing a gun and shooting when the police show up, which person do they shoot?

[Aktungbby]

if you look at the difference in the amount of rounds that a Garand and a Lee Enfield can put down field in the space of a few minutes.

AHHH you English and your 'Mad Minute"; 300 yards is about it actually.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_minute

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

It's a very adaptable weapon, the range of rounds it can fire is very impressive, but it looks like a single shot/reload function, although I might be wrong and you might be able to load multiple rounds.

I was thinking it was a tube fed given that it has a lever action. I guess it could be just for looks?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I imagine reloading might be a bit finicky though, getting the shells or individual bullets out of the stock. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, in an active shooter scenario that kind of delay gives the police time to react.

Thats why I prefer to keep a semi-auto handy in case the police cannot respond fast enough to an active shooter situation.