What do you do when out of fuel

Warren Peace · 02-26-15, 01:33 AM

It hasn't happened to me at all, I start running for home when fuel levels hit about 40%, gives quite a bit of breathing room.

That being said, if it did happen, I'd probably berate myself for being an idiot. Then curse, a lot. If that career had been going particularly well, I might even cry a little bit...

Then I'd suck it up, kill off that career, and go back to captaining an S-boat or Porpoise in 1941, most likely being sent to the bottom before making any real contribution to the war effort.

Alternatively, load up OM and become the bane of the North Sea in my Type IID dinghy.

Oh, I'm back by the way, hi everyone!

les green01 · 02-26-15, 09:45 AM

i ran out about 30 miles from base but had a full battery charge so submerge and coasted it home lesson learn after a contact kick it back down to 1/3 or 2/3 not standard before hitting tc

thegrindre · 03-18-15, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by les green01

i ran out about 30 miles from base but had a full battery charge so submerge and coasted it home lesson learn after a contact kick it back down to 1/3 or 2/3 not standard before hitting tc

I'm getting exceptionally good fuel mileage when running at 9 knots while running TC. That's 1 knot less then Standard, BTW. Any faster, (10 or more knots), and there seems to be a hole in the tank.

Sniper297 · 03-19-15, 12:23 AM

"I need a port in the Philippines"

Try my "GONE ASIATIC" mod.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4358

Also works with Pearl careers, you won't get the action at the beginning but can still refuel and reload at the secret bases.

thegrindre · 03-20-15, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper297

"I need a port in the Philippines"

Try my "GONE ASIATIC" mod.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4358

Also works with Pearl careers, you won't get the action at the beginning but can still refuel and reload at the secret bases.

OK, I'll try it with a new career. It doesn't work while in an existing career in SH4 v1.5 Gold.

(I see you get around, Jim. MSTS?)

Sniper297 · 03-20-15, 08:19 PM

MSTS, railsim/railworks, Trainz, flight sims, RPGs, you name it I play it.

I like limited fuel but within reason, having to waste 2 or 3 hours of gameplaying time crossing the ocean isn't entertainment. There is a mod;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3539

Never tried it myself since I still have 1.4.

thegrindre · 03-20-15, 09:22 PM

I think your "GONE ASIATIC" mod will work for me. I can slip it into GFO nicely.

Thanks,

Sailor Steve · 02-26-15, 09:47 AM

SH1 had two little markers on the fuel gauge. In SH1 you were teleported to and from your patrol area. The needle was always on the first marker when you started, showing you that the amount of fuel you had used getting there. All you needed to remember was to click the 'Go Home' button before the needle reached the second mark.

That all went out the window if you started at Manila in an 'S' boat. The needle was showing a full tank. I scooted around and did my duty until the needle was just above that lower mark. Hit the button and got told the Philippines had fallen and my base had changed to Surabaya. Of course I didn't have anywhere near enough fuel to get there and my career was over.

HertogJan · 02-26-15, 05:04 PM

There's one way of knowing when to leave.

After you plotted your course and reached your patrol area hover the mouse over the fuel bar, it will tell you how much you've used up.
You'll need at least that amount of percentages to get home, some times you'll be able to refuel at a friendly port, recalculate form your patrol area to there.

Fictional example:
Start from Pearl, plot a course to Midway and refuel, plot a course to your patrol area and note the number of Nm to it (say 10.000Nm). On arrival, your fuel gauge has dropped to 85%, it took you 15% fuel to get from A to B (A being Midway cause you topped off there).
Bingo fuel is going to be at 15% you think... Think again

you'll need to recharge your batteries after each dive and that uses up fuel, add 10% to it and you'll have your Bingo fuel.
You'll probably get more than one patrol area to investigate so after you set course from B to C, D or E..... redo the math each time but keep in mind... don't forget to add 10% for recharging your batteries!

You can also look at it form another angle....
In our fictional example going to our patrol area was 10.000Nm adding 2500Nm for battery recharge made 25% fuel consumption, round trip would be less than 50% fuel consumption (only count battery recharge once!) plenty of room to maneuver as long as you keep calculating form last waypoint (being new patrol area) to home or friendly base no exceeding 12.500Nm.

Also, check distance to friendly ports by plotting a course to it and redo the math again, this is particularly helpful if you get send to a area and you'r wondering if you can make it back home or not.
Side note: most friendly ports will eventually be conquered so take note of the Radio reports, no point in sailing for 5 days to a 'used to be friendly port' if you already got the message 3 day's ago saying Manila is being run over or something like that.

thegrindre · 02-27-15, 01:15 AM

Question: How do I know a friendly port from an enemy port? Is it the ones with the anchors?
I need a port in the Philippines.

Had to return for more "bullets" and fuel before I can go to my next assignment.

Had to cut my trip a little short. It says 19/100 and I'm not there yet.
Kept running into enemy ships that needed sinking.

HertogJan · 02-27-15, 02:22 AM

Yes, the anchors are the places where you can refit at, the tilted anchor is your homebase.

_ Quick few question tho, what kind of speed setting do you uses to get from A to B, what speed do you set when patrolling and while I'm at it... what submerged speeds do you use?

I haven't played Stock in a while but by the looks of it you're guzzling fuel, I used to be able to do at least 4 patrols in the area and easily make Pearl without a stop at Midway.

02-26-15, 01:33 AM	#1
Warren Peace Loader Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 89 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	It hasn't happened to me at all, I start running for home when fuel levels hit about 40%, gives quite a bit of breathing room. That being said, if it did happen, I'd probably berate myself for being an idiot. Then curse, a lot. If that career had been going particularly well, I might even cry a little bit... Then I'd suck it up, kill off that career, and go back to captaining an S-boat or Porpoise in 1941, most likely being sent to the bottom before making any real contribution to the war effort. Alternatively, load up OM and become the bane of the North Sea in my Type IID dinghy. Oh, I'm back by the way, hi everyone! __________________ The only sound that still scares me to this day... The silence when the pinging stops.

02-26-15, 09:45 AM	#2
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	i ran out about 30 miles from base but had a full battery charge so submerge and coasted it home lesson learn after a contact kick it back down to 1/3 or 2/3 not standard before hitting tc __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

03-20-15, 09:22 PM	#7
thegrindre Engineer Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 211 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 1	I think your "GONE ASIATIC" mod will work for me. I can slip it into GFO nicely. Thanks, __________________ a.k.a. Rick Silent Hunter 4 Gold v1.5 Intel core 2 duo @ 2.33GHz nVidia Gforce 8800 GTX 768mb 4 gigs ram w/4 gig virtual memory Windows XP Pro w/SP 3 on a 32 bit system At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap!

02-26-15, 09:47 AM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	SH1 had two little markers on the fuel gauge. In SH1 you were teleported to and from your patrol area. The needle was always on the first marker when you started, showing you that the amount of fuel you had used getting there. All you needed to remember was to click the 'Go Home' button before the needle reached the second mark. That all went out the window if you started at Manila in an 'S' boat. The needle was showing a full tank. I scooted around and did my duty until the needle was just above that lower mark. Hit the button and got told the Philippines had fallen and my base had changed to Surabaya. Of course I didn't have anywhere near enough fuel to get there and my career was over. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-27-15, 01:15 AM	#10
thegrindre Engineer Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 211 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 1	Question: How do I know a friendly port from an enemy port? Is it the ones with the anchors? I need a port in the Philippines. Had to return for more "bullets" and fuel before I can go to my next assignment. Had to cut my trip a little short. It says 19/100 and I'm not there yet. Kept running into enemy ships that needed sinking. __________________ a.k.a. Rick Silent Hunter 4 Gold v1.5 Intel core 2 duo @ 2.33GHz nVidia Gforce 8800 GTX 768mb 4 gigs ram w/4 gig virtual memory Windows XP Pro w/SP 3 on a 32 bit system At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap! Last edited by thegrindre; 02-27-15 at 01:26 AM.

03-19-15, 12:23 AM	#4
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	"I need a port in the Philippines" Try my "GONE ASIATIC" mod. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4358 Also works with Pearl careers, you won't get the action at the beginning but can still refuel and reload at the secret bases.

03-20-15, 08:19 PM	#6
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	MSTS, railsim/railworks, Trainz, flight sims, RPGs, you name it I play it. I like limited fuel but within reason, having to waste 2 or 3 hours of gameplaying time crossing the ocean isn't entertainment. There is a mod; http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3539 Never tried it myself since I still have 1.4.

02-26-15, 05:04 PM	#9
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	There's one way of knowing when to leave. After you plotted your course and reached your patrol area hover the mouse over the fuel bar, it will tell you how much you've used up. You'll need at least that amount of percentages to get home, some times you'll be able to refuel at a friendly port, recalculate form your patrol area to there. Fictional example: Start from Pearl, plot a course to Midway and refuel, plot a course to your patrol area and note the number of Nm to it (say 10.000Nm). On arrival, your fuel gauge has dropped to 85%, it took you 15% fuel to get from A to B (A being Midway cause you topped off there). Bingo fuel is going to be at 15% you think... Think again you'll need to recharge your batteries after each dive and that uses up fuel, add 10% to it and you'll have your Bingo fuel. You'll probably get more than one patrol area to investigate so after you set course from B to C, D or E..... redo the math each time but keep in mind... don't forget to add 10% for recharging your batteries! You can also look at it form another angle.... In our fictional example going to our patrol area was 10.000Nm adding 2500Nm for battery recharge made 25% fuel consumption, round trip would be less than 50% fuel consumption (only count battery recharge once!) plenty of room to maneuver as long as you keep calculating form last waypoint (being new patrol area) to home or friendly base no exceeding 12.500Nm. Also, check distance to friendly ports by plotting a course to it and redo the math again, this is particularly helpful if you get send to a area and you'r wondering if you can make it back home or not. Side note: most friendly ports will eventually be conquered so take note of the Radio reports, no point in sailing for 5 days to a 'used to be friendly port' if you already got the message 3 day's ago saying Manila is being run over or something like that.

02-27-15, 02:22 AM	#11
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Yes, the anchors are the places where you can refit at, the tilted anchor is your homebase. _ Quick few question tho, what kind of speed setting do you uses to get from A to B, what speed do you set when patrolling and while I'm at it... what submerged speeds do you use? I haven't played Stock in a while but by the looks of it you're guzzling fuel, I used to be able to do at least 4 patrols in the area and easily make Pearl without a stop at Midway.