Huge pro-EU rally grips Ukraine

[Skybird]

Just recently: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...agon/22855927/

Last autumn: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...e-9830559.html

The other examples I quoted reach back up to four years, I estimate, but I do not care enough to google them all up now since I just displayed my amusement. I did not keep precise track, the claims were made for sure, however. The virus killing him I think was after some Asia trip he made.

Amusement for me. Wishful thinking for political America.

[Betonov]

[mapuc]

The Danish Government are on the same Line as USA

If USA decide to send arms to Ukraine, Denmark will follow them.

It start with morale support, then diplomatically help, then humanitarian help, then defensive weapon, then aggressive weapon, then.....

Markus

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Well to split hairs they are not tanks so actually CNN is lying. Now if they said Russian self propelled guns different story altogether. Of course self propelled artillery is in fact a more effective tool in this instance.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Well to split hairs they are not tanks so actually CNN is lying. Now if they said Russian self propelled guns different story altogether. Of course self propelled artillery is in fact a more effective tool in this instance.

Would have been the first time a media outlet would have gotten that right. My second favorite thing is when they are talking about people who "are armed with machine guns" while they have AK 47s...

[Skybird]

Hey Schroeder, have you heard of the new German APWC - the Armoured Pregnant Woman Carriers? We call them Pumas:

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaf...-13405087.html

This really made my evening yesterday. 3rd and 4th paragraph. I assume that is why there was not enough room for even just a medium machine gun in the turret (the puma has only a light machine gun as secondary): a medical kit for emergency baby deliveries is stored inside it instead.





I almost translated it for the forum.

NATO has a new secret weapon: the Germans. IS will laugh itself to death when they read this. We just need to dispose their bodies then, and we're done.

Other armies have their light machine guns carried by soldiers. The Germans move them around on APWCs. Why not, the Puma will need TWO flights by air transport to be airlifted in protection configuration C: one flight for the tank, and a second flight for the modular armour.

That is no problem and should not worry anyone. The new A400M has such a long list of flaws and problems after the first delivered plane got inspected by the BW that we soon will not have any airlift capacity anymore anyway. Creativly working around a problem , I call that.

Best was the comment by some BW spokesman, whzo messed up his wording. He said "The new airlifter has so unbelievably more problems than we have hoped for." - The next Anglosaxon claiming Germans have no sense of humour, gets shot, I swear it!

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Skybird

HI assume that is why there was not enough room for even just a medium machine gun in the turret (the puma has only a light machine gun as secondary):

Holy cow I was always under the impression they would use the trusty old MG3 for that but no it's the MG4.

Other armies have their light machine guns carried by soldiers. The Germans move them around on APWCs. Why not, the Puma will need TWO flights by air transport to be airlifted in protection configuration C: one flight for the tank, and a second flight for the modular armour.

Well we also think that the Tiger helicopter doesn't need a traversable chin mounted gun...at least we gave it state of the art missiles: The HOT 3 (which goes back to the 1960s and is no fire and forget weapon so it needs constant guidance, perfect for the battlefield of the 21st century.)

That is no problem and should not worry anyone. The new A400M has such a long list of flaws and problems after the first delivered plane got inspected by the BW that we soon will not have any airlift capacity anymore anyway. Creativly working around a problem , I call that.

At least we are in the process of retiring the UH-1 Huey so we can now use the NH 90 for proper airlifting....oh ....wait....nevermind.

[Oberon]

You're not alone Germany, don't worry:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Category...ment_Mysteries

[Skybird]

I partial translation of those two paragraphs:

Good laughter is caused in the industry by that for example (due to new legal statutes here in Germany, Skybird) the interior of the Puma infantry carrier must prevail so good climatic conditions in accordance with the workplace ordinance that even for heavily pregnant female soldiers transport use is still possible under battlefield and combat conditions.

The requisite threshold for the excess gas load (Schußgasentladung) into the passenger compartment of the Puma certainly had been sharpened even further, says the meticulous investigator of the procurement agency in Koblenz. The threat of "fruit water damage in female Puma passangers" has been strictly excluded. However, such requirements increased development costs by millions and a delayed delivery.

Who the hell do they think we send into battle? Highly pregnant women close to delivery trying to drown enemies in fruit water?

A Nahles quality joke this law monster is. Maybe in cooperation with Ursula Vonallein.

Weiberwirtschaft.

The Puma was meant to cost 7 million, and the Germans claimed it would be "cost-effective" (while being the most expensive IFV in operation and production worldwide even already during the planning). The costs are now at 10 million, and promise to rise even further. The 30mm cannon still cannot shoot straight and needs a crutch construction around the barrel of the cannon, the secondary is a lame 5.52, and the airmobility for full armour protection class C - meant for expeditionary service - can only be achieved by investing two airlift flights per one vehicle: one for the vehicle, and one for its armours. The article says that they still have over 1000 items on their error list. I hate this damn thing. Puma - the German answer to the F-35. Instead of 1000, only 350 now are planned to be bought. I expect in the end it will be even less. And no, they will not be worth their money.

Interest by international customers so far: ZERO.

Yes Germans can!

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Well to split hairs they are not tanks so actually CNN is lying. Now if they said Russian self propelled guns different story altogether. Of course self propelled artillery is in fact a more effective tool in this instance.

You know, media

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Betonov

priceless!

[ikalugin]

Correct answer would have been "Nikak net" or "Ne mogu znat'".

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Correct answer would have been "Nikak net" or "Ne mogu znat'".

Well, westerners mostly know niet. And that's it.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Correct answer would have been "Nikak net" or "Ne mogu znat'".

No one here would have understood that.

(but I also keep correcting people here when it comes to bogus German...)

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Well, westerners mostly know niet. And that's it.

I always thought it was 'Nyet' with a y. Then again, I spent a few years thinking Spasibo was Spasiba because of the pronunciation.