Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

People are lazy, so make it as easy for them as possible :

https://translate.google.de/translat...tml&edit-text=
Just hbit the button there.

And compare it with my own post:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...3&postcount=78

Currently, Europe mourns, and sheds tears, and holds motivating speeches. Now that there is not any risk at all involved and no courage needed to hold up a sign in a crowd reading "I am Charlie", people follow the popular trends and follow the rite that is expected of them. Betroffenheitskultur, the German word would be. But I am not like that. I am not sad, and I do not cry - I am angry, and I want to see Europeans finally setting up a fight to Islam - finally. Those people now flocking through the streets, the same people that just a day before maybe still said - and already now say again - that one has to see the good in Islam as well and that it all is relative and a question of interpretation, I spit them my despise on their feet, and all they can get in applause from me for their civilian "courage" by which they "mark a sign", is a slap in their stupid, ignorant face. They should be lambs, not humans, hopping on a meadow and in time being led to the slaughterhouse to contribute to the meal of somebody else.

[Tchocky]

Skybird is apparently not satisfied with labelling every Muslim (fake or not) a threat.

All of you who said anything in support of Charlie Hebdo or anything in commiseration with those who lost their lives. You're all jerks too and deserve a slap in your stupid ignorant faces.

And apparently you should be eaten afterwards. Or something.


It's going to get lonely when there's nobody left to hate and you're standing in the street screaming at corpses.

[Armistead]

With these dirtbags today, you may as well fight from the start, rather than let them get any control over you for torture and death anyway...

I suspect this is the beginning. I can see a future where these acts keep major cities in crisis for a long time to go....massive closings, highways shutdown, etc....

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Armistead

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

I thought I told you to stop being wrong about "appeasing Islam" in France.

Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anyway.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Armistead

With these dirtbags today, you may as well fight from the start, rather than let them get any control over you for torture and death anyway...

I suspect this is the beginning. I can see a future where these acts keep major cities in crisis for a long time to go....massive closings, highways shutdown, etc....

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

Exactly. The appeasers, PC crowd who refuse to see and tell the truth about Islam are just as if not more dangerous than the "radical" muslims themselves.Bill Maher is one liberal who tells the truth about Islam.France is suffering the end result of mindless unchecked immigration from the muslim world, chickens are coming home to roost so to speak. Really is sad, beautiful country(I visited this past summer) and people overall.

The US has suffered but will suffer even more if we do not take a real and strong stance soon. Just a quote I saw somewhere "A radical muslim wants to cut your head off.A "moderate muslim" wants to watch the radical muslim cut your head off."

BTW, to curb the faux outrage from the usual suspects, I am not saying all followers of Islam are terrorists or support such barbaric attacks as those in Paris recently.However, there is a large percentage who conduct the violence and perpetuate the violence and an even larger percentage who hide under the cloak of the "moderate" label yet tacitly support the radicals who carry out the attacks.

This also speaks to the big picture.The clash of civilizations, we simply can not coexist.Western values and Islamic values just do not mesh, never have and never will.One is modern and has improved the human condition for the most part, values liberty and individual freedom(not as much as once did but a different argument) while the other is stuck in the dark ages.Unfortunately that means over a billion people are stuck in the dark ages, well most of them.Some on here will try to say that's not true blah blah, just look at facts and the history, ignore them you will, I am sure but honestly.The Paris attack should be a wake up call for EVERYONE.

What is the answer? Well certainly not something like a massive war to try and wipe it out, that is just as barbaric and perpetuating the cycle of violence.Outlawing the religion in our lands? No, that is against out values and violates our rights.What should be done?

Honestly, it's complicated and will not pretend to know the answer.One thing is not check our tolerance, make sure we are not so tolerant and our leaders, culture, media etc does not appease these enemies of humanity/I nearly puked when of course on MSNBC, not long after news of the attacks broke, some loon on there was faulting "Islamophobia" in France as the cause of the attacks.People like this are part of the problem and just as dangerous as the enemy.SMH

Nice to be back, been too long since I have signed in here lol.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That's a cutting comment.
But really Tchocky, you are better than that, you shouldn't mock the afflicted.

I'm nowhere close to mocking, I'm ashamed to be on the same forum as this decrepit excuse for an opinionated blowhard.


People deserve physical violence and death for not hating the same thing as he does.

Death for speaking out after barbarism instead of before.

Death for not sharing his opinion.

I pity the mod who has to claw through that. That kind of thinking belongs on the ash heap.

[Tchocky]

I don't really want to further derail it, man.


Seems the young lady hostage taker survived the supermarket assault. I wonder what we'll find out from her.

[Oberon]

It's getting a little confusing, but then I've been locked away in a court room all day so I've been only able to scan the news from time to time on my phone on the way there and back. So, is this woman a friend of one of the guys who shot up the magazine building, and the other two guys at the warehouse are the remainder of the three original attackers?

Either which way, a very professional response to the situation by the French police, they were very quick to close down the scenes, I recall one eyewitness saying that within five minutes of shots being fired the police had helicopters in the area.

So good work to the police, a job well done, would have been better to have got them alive and oubliette them, but the longer it went on the more likely that more people would have been killed, so it just wasn't plausible.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I've been locked away in a court room all day

Finally!

Originally Posted by Oberon

So, is this woman a friend of one of the guys who shot up the magazine building, and the other two guys at the warehouse are the remainder of the three original attackers?

The reports are still a bit uncertain, whether there were 2 or one attackers in the supermarket - the girl said to be the fiancée of the perp shot in Paris. She is on the run now.
The third guy wanted in connection with Charlie Hebro apparently has an alibi for the time of the attack, it is said that one of the Hebro killers was his bro-in-law.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

I see your right-wing opinion piece and raise you yesterday's comment by Yücel from the Taz.

Here's a link to the Google translation for the barbarians who don't understand German as I'm too lazy to translate it.

Some additions for the non-Germans:
First paragraph's last sentence: "These people are a few left-liberal cartoonists ****" means they are crap to them.
Pegida is an anti-Islam(ization) movement, AfD is a Euro-sceptical party, NPD a Nazi party.

Second paragraph: "Titanic" and "Postillion" are satire mags - "nüscht" is Berlin slang for nothing.

The rest should hopefully be understandable.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Here's a link to the Google translation for the barbarians who don't understand German as I'm too lazy to translate it.

WTH? I'm a Barbarian for not reading German?


I wanted to learn German in High School but all they offered was French or Spanish.

[Rockstar]

[Schroeder]

@Penguin

Awesome stuff. That is exactly what I'm thinking and it's good to hear it from a guy who is of Turkish decent.
Not all Muslims are evil but there is a need for Islam to look at itself and do something about radicals.

[Catfish]

Thanks Penguin, good article.

And thanks to Neal, good Subsim Logo