can't get rid of destroyers

Aktungbby · 01-04-15, 12:53 PM

Well if OTTO Kretschmer could endure the humility so can you. Destroy your enigma. and all codes. Set your charges and blow ballast. Remember your thankyou to the crew speech and have your cleanest T-shirt on a pole so they don't open fire as you broach...you or the exec must handle that detail and it could be dangerous. The fatherland thanks U.......

vanjast · 01-04-15, 01:40 PM

You still have 4.5 hours to go before you beat my record ..

Track them on the hydrophone and always follow (turn towards) the one that attacks you.. but only after the attack, as this is the next one that will ping you. A gap will soon appear when they're all on the same side... this is when you 'beam' away from the scene.

Dronston · 01-04-15, 02:54 PM

@Aktungbby thanks for the moral support

@vanjast wow, I really hope it won't last that long...
I am not sure what you mean with 'beam away', does that mean speeding away or sneaking away?
Problem I have now is one destroyer starts a run and even before the last depth charge explodes the next in line is already pinging me...I feel I have no chance to escape except for if they leave the scene eventually. I guess I'll take my chances and preserve battery power as much as I can to buy more time. If necessary I will try to attack on my last 10% or so. How I wish settling on the bottom would work...

Kommandant_Wesser · 01-04-15, 03:10 PM

i was in this scenario in american i was assigned to raid a harbur and i was getting depth charged at 15 meters i had to ride the bottom (17meters) to escape at 1 knot.

sublynx · 01-04-15, 03:54 PM

NYGM, GWX, LSH or vanilla? What is the sea condition and visibility? Day or night? Do you use Stiebler's and/or h.sie's mods? Do you have a guesstimate of who the escorts are? Are they equally good at detecting you? Do they have radar? Any corvettes? Have they lost contact with you for a longer time?

90 meters is pretty awful. I sure hope the seas are at least rough. One mistake I've done is to take the depth charges in the water alarm too seriously. Often the dc's are dropped quite a distance from me. If you cause noise by escaping faster they might spot you again. Changing depth at times and maybe even 0 Rpm at times might be of help. Try to guess where the escort depth charging you is going to turn aftef its run and turn away from it. Go port if it turns to starboard. The one dc'ing you might not be the one that needs to be avoided most. It might be the one going very slowly perhaps listening to you.When you have to use speed try to gain distance to the one escort that you think is the best at spotting you.

I hope someone with shallow water experience can help you with some hints. I haven't been hunted in those kind of waters in years.

Good luck!

Dronston · 01-04-15, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sublynx

NYGM, GWX, LSH or vanilla? What is the sea condition and visibility? Day or night? Do you use Stiebler's and/or h.sie's mods? Do you have a guesstimate of who the escorts are? Are they equally good at detecting you? Do they have radar? Any corvettes? Have they lost contact with you for a longer time?

90 meters is pretty awful. I sure hope the seas are at least rough. One mistake I've done is to take the depth charges in the water alarm too seriously. Often the dc's are dropped quite a distance from me. If you cause noise by escaping faster they might spot you again. Changing depth at times and maybe even 0 Rpm at times might be of help. Try to guess where the escort depth charging you is going to turn aftef its run and turn away from it. Go port if it turns to starboard. The one dc'ing you might not be the one that needs to be avoided most. It might be the one going very slowly perhaps listening to you.When you have to use speed try to gain distance to the one escort that you think is the best at spotting you.

I hope someone with shallow water experience can help you with some hints. I haven't been hunted in those kind of waters in years.

Good luck!

GWX. Sea is calm, flat no waves whatsoever, at the moment it's about 1 pm, no clouds, visibilty at max... No Stiebler's and/or h.sie's mods. No idea who the escorts are, all seem equally 'talented'. I'm not good at understanding the difference between destroyers and corvettes, one of them is smaller than the res, don't know if they have radar, they never saw me on the surface or detected me before my attack.

The way I try to escape is to go slow (silent running of course) until depth charges are released, than I speed up to avoid them, sometimes I order hard rudder starboard or port. As soon as I think the last charge detonated or when they explode far away I order 1 knot again. I tried to vary my depth but I need some water above me to outrun the charges. Problem in this case is that I am being constantly pinged so I never seem to be 'lost'.

I also tried to just hover in the water at 0 speed but that almost got me killed and damaged my forward deck and cannon and flak gun. I guess I will also avoid shallow waters for a while if I survive this ordeal.

Dronston · 01-04-15, 03:55 PM

@Aktungbby you suggest giving up before actual defeat. This will not do sir, this will not do. At least not yet...

Aktungbby · 01-04-15, 04:12 PM

Well I suspect your up against a well trained 'hunt to destruction' oriented flotilla with its act together and in shallow water to boot.

" One highly successful tactic employed by Walker was the creeping attack, where two ships would work together to keep contact with a U –boat whilst attacking; a refinement of this was the barrage attack, which had three or more sloops in line to launch depth charges to saturate the area with depth charges in a manner similar to a rolling barrage by artillery in advance of an infantry attack." It's a little early in the war yet for Johnny Walker. You'd best have some of the Schnapps yourself and hand out the medic's medicinal brandy...that water's cold. Have a better day than Prien or Schepke!

It's what I love about SHII: the option to surrender! Who want's to die for an Austrian corporal who doesn't like the navy anyhow-" At sea I am a coward"-der Fuhrer!???

Dronston · 01-04-15, 04:18 PM

But, but, but it's supposed to be the happy times for us at this stage of the war...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Well I suspect your up against a well trained 'hunt to destruction' oriented flotilla with its act together and in shallow water to boot.

" One highly successful tactic employed by Walker was the creeping attack, where two ships would work together to keep contact with a U –boat whilst attacking; a refinement of this was the barrage attack, which had three or more sloops in line to launch depth charges to saturate the area with depth charges in a manner similar to a rolling barrage by artillery in advance of an infantry attack." It's a little early in the war yet for Johnny Walker. You'd best have some of the Schnapps yourself and hand out the medic's medicinal brandy...that water's cold. Have a better day than Prien or Schepke!

It's what I love about SHII: the option to surrender! Who want's to die for an Austrian corporal who doesn't like the navy anyhow-" At sea I am a coward"-der Fuhrer!???

Downunderjock · 01-04-15, 05:07 PM

Hi.

Have you ever tried it let them (the destroyers.) Leap Frog over you???

It sometimes, works. But make sure your periscope is completely down, first.

Go a full steam ahead, at periscope depth, letting them chase you. Don't alter your course.

And no more than about two maybe three of them, you do this too.

In some cases, you may not receive a lot of damage, or maybe none. (depending on the game setting for realism, you have set up.)

And admittedly, you may get major damage, but you might just take a few of them, too.

If it work's for you. You may see some limp away from you badly, or after going over the top of you, sink then and there, away from you.

Did this in SH4 and SH5, too.

See Ya

01-04-15, 12:53 PM	#1
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,049 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Well if OTTO Kretschmer could endure the humility so can you. Destroy your enigma. and all codes. Set your charges and blow ballast. Remember your thankyou to the crew speech and have your cleanest T-shirt on a pole so they don't open fire as you broach...you or the exec must handle that detail and it could be dangerous. The fatherland thanks U....... __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

01-04-15, 02:54 PM	#3
Dronston Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 263 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	@Aktungbby thanks for the moral support @vanjast wow, I really hope it won't last that long... I am not sure what you mean with 'beam away', does that mean speeding away or sneaking away? Problem I have now is one destroyer starts a run and even before the last depth charge explodes the next in line is already pinging me...I feel I have no chance to escape except for if they leave the scene eventually. I guess I'll take my chances and preserve battery power as much as I can to buy more time. If necessary I will try to attack on my last 10% or so. How I wish settling on the bottom would work... __________________ Live to fight another day!

01-04-15, 03:54 PM	#5
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	NYGM, GWX, LSH or vanilla? What is the sea condition and visibility? Day or night? Do you use Stiebler's and/or h.sie's mods? Do you have a guesstimate of who the escorts are? Are they equally good at detecting you? Do they have radar? Any corvettes? Have they lost contact with you for a longer time? 90 meters is pretty awful. I sure hope the seas are at least rough. One mistake I've done is to take the depth charges in the water alarm too seriously. Often the dc's are dropped quite a distance from me. If you cause noise by escaping faster they might spot you again. Changing depth at times and maybe even 0 Rpm at times might be of help. Try to guess where the escort depth charging you is going to turn aftef its run and turn away from it. Go port if it turns to starboard. The one dc'ing you might not be the one that needs to be avoided most. It might be the one going very slowly perhaps listening to you.When you have to use speed try to gain distance to the one escort that you think is the best at spotting you. I hope someone with shallow water experience can help you with some hints. I haven't been hunted in those kind of waters in years. Good luck! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

01-04-15, 03:55 PM	#7
Dronston Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 263 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	@Aktungbby you suggest giving up before actual defeat. This will not do sir, this will not do. At least not yet... __________________ Live to fight another day!

01-04-15, 04:12 PM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,049 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Well I suspect your up against a well trained 'hunt to destruction' oriented flotilla with its act together and in shallow water to boot. " One highly successful tactic employed by Walker was the creeping attack, where two ships would work together to keep contact with a U –boat whilst attacking; a refinement of this was the barrage attack, which had three or more sloops in line to launch depth charges to saturate the area with depth charges in a manner similar to a rolling barrage by artillery in advance of an infantry attack." It's a little early in the war yet for Johnny Walker. You'd best have some of the Schnapps yourself and hand out the medic's medicinal brandy...that water's cold. Have a better day than Prien or Schepke! It's what I love about SHII: the option to surrender! Who want's to die for an Austrian corporal who doesn't like the navy anyhow-" At sea I am a coward"-der Fuhrer!??? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

01-04-15, 01:40 PM	#2
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	You still have 4.5 hours to go before you beat my record .. Track them on the hydrophone and always follow (turn towards) the one that attacks you.. but only after the attack, as this is the next one that will ping you. A gap will soon appear when they're all on the same side... this is when you 'beam' away from the scene.

01-04-15, 03:10 PM	#4
Kommandant_Wesser Seaman Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 37 Downloads: 183 Uploads: 1	i was in this scenario in american i was assigned to raid a harbur and i was getting depth charged at 15 meters i had to ride the bottom (17meters) to escape at 1 knot.

01-04-15, 05:07 PM	#10
Downunderjock Mate Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Geelong, Australia Posts: 55 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Leap frogging Hi. Have you ever tried it let them (the destroyers.) Leap Frog over you??? It sometimes, works. But make sure your periscope is completely down, first. Go a full steam ahead, at periscope depth, letting them chase you. Don't alter your course. And no more than about two maybe three of them, you do this too. In some cases, you may not receive a lot of damage, or maybe none. (depending on the game setting for realism, you have set up.) And admittedly, you may get major damage, but you might just take a few of them, too. If it work's for you. You may see some limp away from you badly, or after going over the top of you, sink then and there, away from you. Did this in SH4 and SH5, too. See Ya