TOR under attack, security now apparently compromised

Skybird · 12-22-14, 08:22 AM

More total state marching for total victory over free people.

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/pos...le-tor-network

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.tor.user/34619

Already earlier it was demoinstrated that the anonymization of TOR had been breached, many users were successfully identified:

https://mice.cs.columbia.edu/getTech...hreportID=1545

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/f...a-1003330.html

Comply! Obey! Be transparent to the state! Only those who have to hide somethin, must fear...

Oberon · 12-22-14, 08:34 AM

Whenever you build a bigger mouse, there will come along a bigger mousetrap...

mapuc · 12-22-14, 05:23 PM

Made me remember an issue in the Swedish news program some years ago,

It was about this TOR

I seems to recall that the person in the program said that the idea behind this TOR was to give people in dictator controlled country like China a chance to get on the Internet without gettin caught. What the dev team behind this didn't thought off was that it became a tool in the hand of IT-criminals.

And if this new thing can get these criminal behind bars or whatever I clap my hand

But I also cry for those ordinary people how live in China a.s.o

Another news program A police officer said that this TOR was a(forgot the word) and it was impossible to get them

Markus

Catfish · 12-22-14, 05:37 PM

We have to accept secret services know what we write, read, say, and most of 'us' tell them voluntarily, e.g. via Facebook, the cloud, whatever.
Metadata are more treacherus than real mails, because anyone can be found by certain behaviour which he will conduct again and again, even under different names or behind a proxy.

I just cannot point at the event in time, when such things like eavesdropping by the state against all citizens were suddenly "accepted" and "legal", after they were not, for centuries. There was a creeping background-changing of laws, and made-up reasons.

With this scale of eavesdropping, any freedom (also the praised american one) is a joke, and compromised.
Maybe the people should become active, and fight back. There are means, it is the problem the make them popular, and known.

Stealhead · 12-22-14, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

We have to accept secret services know what we write, read, say, and most of 'us' tell them voluntarily, e.g. via Facebook, the cloud, whatever.
Metadata are more treacherus than real mails, because anyone can be found by certain behaviour which he will conduct again and again, even under different names or behind a proxy.

I just cannot point at the event in time, when such things like eavesdropping by the state against all citizens were suddenly "accepted" and "legal", after they were not, for centuries. There was a creeping background-changing of laws, and made-up reasons.

With this scale of eavesdropping, any freedom (also the praised american one) is a joke, and compromised.
Maybe the people should become active, and fight back. There are means, it is the problem the make them popular, and known.

That's true metadata is very traceable a computer can find patterns in seconds that a human might take months or years to connect as the same person. In effect a computer kind find "you" no matter how hard you try to hide.

vanjast · 12-23-14, 02:40 PM

I'm sure the spy agencies would suffer from 'information overload' if they tried to follow everyone. As they say, they are selective... probably brought about from key words and key sites.

Now a word like 'bomb' would now get them excited.. and they're now be monitoring Subsim.
The next trick is for everyone to use the word 'bomb' ... at least 10x a day... spreading the user word usage over time ... they'll just give up with the 'overload'.

12-22-14, 08:22 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	TOR under attack, security now apparently compromised More total state marching for total victory over free people. https://blog.torproject.org/blog/pos...le-tor-network http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.tor.user/34619 Already earlier it was demoinstrated that the anonymization of TOR had been breached, many users were successfully identified: https://mice.cs.columbia.edu/getTech...hreportID=1545 http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/f...a-1003330.html Comply! Obey! Be transparent to the state! Only those who have to hide somethin, must fear... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-22-14, 08:34 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Whenever you build a bigger mouse, there will come along a bigger mousetrap...

12-22-14, 05:23 PM	#3
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Made me remember an issue in the Swedish news program some years ago, It was about this TOR I seems to recall that the person in the program said that the idea behind this TOR was to give people in dictator controlled country like China a chance to get on the Internet without gettin caught. What the dev team behind this didn't thought off was that it became a tool in the hand of IT-criminals. And if this new thing can get these criminal behind bars or whatever I clap my hand But I also cry for those ordinary people how live in China a.s.o Another news program A police officer said that this TOR was a(forgot the word) and it was impossible to get them Markus

12-22-14, 05:37 PM	#4
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	We have to accept secret services know what we write, read, say, and most of 'us' tell them voluntarily, e.g. via Facebook, the cloud, whatever. Metadata are more treacherus than real mails, because anyone can be found by certain behaviour which he will conduct again and again, even under different names or behind a proxy. I just cannot point at the event in time, when such things like eavesdropping by the state against all citizens were suddenly "accepted" and "legal", after they were not, for centuries. There was a creeping background-changing of laws, and made-up reasons. With this scale of eavesdropping, any freedom (also the praised american one) is a joke, and compromised. Maybe the people should become active, and fight back. There are means, it is the problem the make them popular, and known.

12-23-14, 02:40 PM	#6
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,738 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I'm sure the spy agencies would suffer from 'information overload' if they tried to follow everyone. As they say, they are selective... probably brought about from key words and key sites. Now a word like 'bomb' would now get them excited.. and they're now be monitoring Subsim. The next trick is for everyone to use the word 'bomb' ... at least 10x a day... spreading the user word usage over time ... they'll just give up with the 'overload'.