What's the deal with FEMA?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

You can bet your sweet bippy...

Topical references to jokes from a time before most of our members were born are strictly encouraged.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

It's funny that as administrations change it doesn't shake their beliefs one little bit. Every incoming administration is viewed the same way. Remember that Bush was slated to become the God King too but when he left office on schedule they just transferred the object of their attention to Obama. I expect that when he leaves office in 2017 they'll have no trouble applying their theory to his successor.

Yeah, I guess you have got to give it to them, they are bipartisan.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Yeah, I guess you have got to give it to them, they are bipartisan.

That's why I see them as a separate political entity all together. Not Left, Right or Center but "Opposite" as in "Opposite to Whoever is Currently in Power" "The Man" (whoever that might be this week) is out to get them and nobody can convince them otherwise.

[Catfish]

And thanks Firefighter , i thought it would be something like that.

While in some situations the military is asked to help (e.g. flooding or major catastrophes), the civilian organisation for such matters in Germany is the THW, or "Technisches Hilfswerk" ("Technical Helping .. err Works" ?).
It has own grounds for storing machinery and emergency stuff, also canned food and medicine, but firefighter and decontaminating eqipment only for real bad situations, like a nuclear facility blowing up, energy plants or chemical pollution.
Normal Fires are being dealt with local firefighting units, which certainly can be quite big, like around airports etc.

Seems like the FEMA does similar things.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by fireftr18

FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Agency, is a civilian agency to help local areas plan for potential large scale natural disasters. It is a federal agency simply because the event scale is often over multiple jurisdictions and states. It is meant to help all these jurisdictions coordinate with each other to plan, respond, clean up, and restore. The agency keeps stock piles of supplies and equipment ready to be moved and used. It also has on going contracts with private companies to be ready to respond immediately. The "FEMA camps" are real, they are decommissioned military bases, warehouses, etc located in different areas of the country. They are being maintained to hold the fore mentioned supplies and equipment, and double as refugee shelters in the rare cases that people are displaced from their homes for an extended period. Yes, they are fenced in with barbed wire around them. If I had a facility that is normally kept unstaffed, I would do the same. FEMA itself is not meant to respond immediately to emergencies, that is what the local agencies are for. FEMA itself is meant to provide the additional resources to help restore the area. I have had several opportunities to work with FEMA. As a federal agency, it may be one of the best. The people were great to work with. I did stay in a temporary FEMA camp, it was about as secure as my neighborhood (actually, even less secure. Nobody wanted to hurt the alligators).
The stock piling of body bags and coffins. Well, unfortunately, death is a part of a disaster. They also stock pile MREs, water, fuel, cots, tents, RV's, house trailers, medicine, first aid supplies, tools, generators, the list goes on. Most of this, even if it's "durable equipment," will be worn out by the time the event is mitigated and things are back as normal as can be.

The really odd thing regarding the barbed wire on those fences...

It's on the top of the fence and slanted inwards as if to keep someone inside, rather than canted outward to prevent intrusions.

I have also read that the stockpiling of MRE's was cancelled. Detainees won't need to be fed after their heads get lopped off with all the guillotines they bought. This will also make it easier for the Dentists.

I've got some prime real estate for sale if anyone is interested.
It's in District twelve.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Topical references to jokes from a time before most of our members were born are strictly encouraged.

Yeah, you two are welcome to remain in the dark ages....we now have electric lighting you know, the age of gas lamps is now long gone

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Yeah, you two are welcome to remain in the dark ages....we now have electric lighting you know, the age of gas lamps is now long gone

Wait...you mean to say I've been walking around the streets at dawn and dusk with this bloody great stick for nothing?!





It'll never catch on.

[Catfish]

With a litle work, you could still use it as a remote bottle-opener.

And proven, already electric light in the 60ies:

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Wait...you mean to say I've been walking around the streets at dawn and dusk with this bloody great stick for nothing?!





It'll never catch on.

Best utilised for picking up rubbish nowadays

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Wait...you mean to say I've been walking around the streets at dawn and dusk with this bloody great stick for nothing?!





It'll never catch on.

Good lord! so to speak I actually used one those in my acolyte days when I sought salvation while mom prepared the communion vino and sang in the choir; when the skies darkened and a voice said to me "Save it bub; you ain't gettin' in no how!" talk about an epiphany in reverse! Too bad...I liked wearing the gown!
And then rejected I turned to the darkside

[August]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

The really odd thing regarding the barbed wire on those fences...

It's on the top of the fence and slanted inwards as if to keep someone inside, rather than canted outward to prevent intrusions.

I'm using Steves Salt Lake City building code for an example here but I imagine it's similar to other jurisdictions.

slcilp.ci.slc.ut.us...
4. Special Design Regulations: No strand of barbed wire shall be permitted less than six feet (6') high. No more than three (3) strands of barbed wire are permitted. The barbed wire strands shall not slant outward from the fence more than sixty degrees (60o) from a vertical line. No barbed wire strand shall project over public property. If the barbed wire proposed slants outward over adjoining private property the applicant must submit written consent from adjoining property owner agreeing to such a projection over the property line.

Besides, three little strands of regular barbed wire isn't much of an obstacle regardless of which way it's facing. That's why prisons (places actually designed to keep people in) look like this

[mapuc]

You have an opinion until you have a new or you have different opinion reliant on who's the author of the thread.

Markus

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by August

I'm using Steves Salt Lake City building code for an example here but I imagine it's similar to other jurisdictions.

slcilp.ci.slc.ut.us...
4. Special Design Regulations: No strand of barbed wire shall be permitted less than six feet (6') high. No more than three (3) strands of barbed wire are permitted. The barbed wire strands shall not slant outward from the fence more than sixty degrees (60o) from a vertical line. No barbed wire strand shall project over public property. If the barbed wire proposed slants outward over adjoining private property the applicant must submit written consent from adjoining property owner agreeing to such a projection over the property line.

Besides, three little strands of regular barbed wire isn't much of an obstacle regardless of which way it's facing. That's why prisons (places actually designed to keep people in) look like this

We're talking Federal property here that isn't really subject to any local building codes. Most military bases consist of property owned solely by the government. Usually any sensitive areas that require fencing will not border on private property. I can cite the ammo dump on Fort Knox as an example. It is deep within the base and it has the type of fencing pictured above surrounding it and guards armed with sawed off shotguns loaded with deer slugs. The guards have standing orders to shoot and kill anyone found in an area they are not authorized to be in. No questions asked.

FEMA being tasked with upgrading these old military bases, for whatever unknown purpose, seems a bit shady in my book.
If you read HR 645 and the criteria laid out for those bases it will kind of blow your mind.

Those plastic coffins that have been referred to...
are not of the single person variety. They're large enough to hold six adult bodies. So, if you're going to die in some natural disaster, I hope you don't mind sharing your final resting place with a few strangers. Or maybe it's the most efficient method of disposing of entire families at once. Who knows?

[August]

Again three little strands of wire do not pose much of an obstacle for anyone regardless of which way they angle and FEMA using federal property is certainly to be expected.

[FaithB]

Federal Emergency Management Agency is an agency in our country. They are under the United States Department of Homeland Security. Anyway, over the last few years, the FEMA hasn't made several friends. Federal Emergency Management Agency has sent out letters insisting that 5,560 individuals repay $21 million in emergency funds. One senator has recently floated a bill that would stop these payments.