Gunman takes hostages in Sydney - Page 3

Oberon · 12-15-14, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot

I'd be curious to know what this guy is doing when his bladder begins to complain.

"I'll be skipping to the loo for a moment. Consider yourselves still at gunpoint please."

"Here, look after this gun for a minute. I'll be right back."

Dread Knot · 12-15-14, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

"Here, look after this gun for a minute. I'll be right back."

Hopefully those resourceful Aussie hostages are plying him lots of cups of with coffee and caffeinated fizzy drinks.

"Drink more. You'll need this to stay awake, mate."

Skybird · 12-15-14, 09:55 AM

An Iranian.

A refugee.

A repeated criminal offender.

Who was on bail.

Obviously an Islamic State sympathiser.

Lovely.

Especially the refugee part. Thugs coming from other countries and the abusing the refuge given to them to rape their hosts - this sort of bastards I like best.

Dread Knot · 12-15-14, 10:02 AM

Iranian. Hostage. Crisis.

Paging Jimmy Carter.

Dowly · 12-15-14, 10:09 AM

5-6 hostages escaped/were released just now.

Dowly · 12-15-14, 10:16 AM

Police went in, flashbangs and gunfire.

MH · 12-15-14, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

So you think 30.000 gun fatalities in the US per year are a good trade for one or two hostage situations like that per year?

The difference is that by owning a guns you are sort of master of your destiny.
This may be sometimes an illusion but plays well with American individualism.
Without as gun one is just the statistics.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:39 AM

Optimal time really, he'd be tiring, needing the toilet, his rationality would be decreasing, so if he is determined not to surrender or become a martyr then he'd be likely to escalate.
A bomb disposal robot is going in apparently, so it looks like Man is either subdued or dead and his backpack is being secured.

V13dweller · 12-15-14, 10:39 AM

Police go in, all remaining hostages escaped, perp is presumed dead, as the police have left the premises.

4 possible injuries from what I gather.

As an Australian, I am surprised it is being followed by other nations, and so closely.

A spectacular light show from inside, I dare say, most Australian Standoff's don't last this long, most don't involve firearms, and most take place in houses.

EDIT: Police Announce the Siege is OFFICIALLY Over. 23:49 AWDT.

Dread Knot · 12-15-14, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Optimal time really, he'd be tiring, needing the toilet*

*A form of self-torture known under the Geneva Conventions as water-hoarding. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Skybird · 12-15-14, 10:50 AM

What a scumbag he seems to be. Known for having sent hate-mails to the families of fallen Australian soldiers. Suspected to have murdered his wife, but could not be proven. Several charges for sexual abuse.

Too bad he did not end with a bullet in his head. Instead: a huge waste of tax money. Or is he dead? Let's hope for the best.

V13dweller · 12-15-14, 10:53 AM

Police are yet to release the details.

This kind of situation is not a Waste of Money, if you understand this kind of situation, you'd understand why.

Politics, public opinion, backlash and Media Circus.

Pretty sure they get paid the same, regardless if they are rescuing hostages or not.

Dowly · 12-15-14, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Too bad he did not end with a bullet in his head. Instead: a huge waste of tax money. Or is he dead? Let's hope for the best.

Nothing confirmed, but the police fired number of rounds as they went in. Injured or dead would be my bet.

V13dweller · 12-15-14, 10:59 AM

Apparently, just in, 2 deaths and 3 injuries. (Unconfirmed)

Rockstar · 12-15-14, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

That's fair enough, but not everyone would think that way which leads to the risk of innocent bystanders being wounded or killed by the gunfire.

Very true not everyone does think about these things. However myself and the people I associate with do, we are called responsible gun owners and take that moniker seriously. We don't own these tools for the sake of commiting crimes, terrorizing people, to rob another, murder or establish neighborhood boundaries.

Ownership simply satisfies our desire to defend our homes, exercise our 2nd amendment right from time to time at the range and periodically place food on the table. And yes the thought of strays concerns me, but not being able to do more than just sit there with my thumb up my arse while an intruder is in my home concerns me much more.

"I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six."

12-15-14, 09:55 AM	#33
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	An Iranian. A refugee. A repeated criminal offender. Who was on bail. Obviously an Islamic State sympathiser. Lovely. Especially the refugee part. Thugs coming from other countries and the abusing the refuge given to them to rape their hosts - this sort of bastards I like best. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-15-14, 10:39 AM	#39
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Police go in, all remaining hostages escaped, perp is presumed dead, as the police have left the premises. 4 possible injuries from what I gather. As an Australian, I am surprised it is being followed by other nations, and so closely. A spectacular light show from inside, I dare say, most Australian Standoff's don't last this long, most don't involve firearms, and most take place in houses. EDIT: Police Announce the Siege is OFFICIALLY Over. 23:49 AWDT. Last edited by V13dweller; 12-15-14 at 10:49 AM.

12-15-14, 10:50 AM	#41
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What a scumbag he seems to be. Known for having sent hate-mails to the families of fallen Australian soldiers. Suspected to have murdered his wife, but could not be proven. Several charges for sexual abuse. Too bad he did not end with a bullet in his head. Instead: a huge waste of tax money. Or is he dead? Let's hope for the best. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-15-14, 10:02 AM	#34
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Iranian. Hostage. Crisis. Paging Jimmy Carter.

12-15-14, 10:09 AM	#35
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	5-6 hostages escaped/were released just now.

12-15-14, 10:16 AM	#36
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Police went in, flashbangs and gunfire.

12-15-14, 10:39 AM	#38
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Optimal time really, he'd be tiring, needing the toilet, his rationality would be decreasing, so if he is determined not to surrender or become a martyr then he'd be likely to escalate. A bomb disposal robot is going in apparently, so it looks like Man is either subdued or dead and his backpack is being secured.

12-15-14, 10:53 AM	#42
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Police are yet to release the details. This kind of situation is not a Waste of Money, if you understand this kind of situation, you'd understand why. Politics, public opinion, backlash and Media Circus. Pretty sure they get paid the same, regardless if they are rescuing hostages or not.

12-15-14, 10:59 AM	#44
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Apparently, just in, 2 deaths and 3 injuries. (Unconfirmed)