Blair: how to make a complete idiot of oneself

[STEED]

Tony Blair is the worst Prime Minister of all time he can not be trusted one bit as I remember when he first came to power he promise their would be no sleaze in his party. And look at them corrupt to the core; this is one stinking Prime Minister I will not miss. I look forward to the first book on the Blair years stating he sat on a massive majority and did nothing its all smoke and mirrors with that grinning moron, I am paying higher taxes under him, and what has he done. Put this country well in the red, Blair is a vile snake in the grass.

[Kapitan]

Here here steed my council tax bill just went up by 100% i was only paying £331 per year (due to my nan) but they seem to think that its now ok to charge £1,336 per year.

And do we see the money being spent anywhere ?

NO

Bring back maggie thatcher

Blair, another nut like Bush

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by STEED

Tony Blair is the worst Prime Minister of all time he can not be trusted one bit as I remember when he first came to power he promise their would be no sleaze in his party. And look at them corrupt to the core; this is one stinking Prime Minister I will not miss. I look forward to the first book on the Blair years stating he sat on a massive majority and did nothing its all smoke and mirrors with that grinning moron, I am paying higher taxes under him, and what has he done. Put this country well in the red, Blair is a vile snake in the grass.

Show me a political party that hasn't got sleaze. It's the nature of the animal. All politicians are legalized con men and I have never seen a politician that wasn't rich.
So as the public our job is to try and pick the least sleazy, close our eyes and ears and hope for the best. Unfourtunatley the public closing their eyes and plugging their ears has got us in a world of hurt.

[scandium]

There's a certain common mindset that rich politicians are somehow immune to corruption because of their wealth. I don't see it. In fact they're paid well enough that, rich or poor, they don't need to supplement their income with graft.

I don't think you could find a party immune to "sleaze", its more a question of how deep the rot goes. It may sound naive but I think there are and have been many politicians who aren't corrupt. Former US President Carter, for instance, whatever his other faults, didn't strike me as being on the take.

[STEED]

bradclark1, you’re lucky you don't have to put up with Blair and his henchmen and lackeys, like Kapitain and I we pay so much tax I lost count. Tax on this and that and back door tax, stealth tax, secret tax that has yet to come to light. It's a nightmare and what makes it worst all that tax is being wasted on Blair’s dumb plans.

[Kapitan]

Just got my bank statement.

£9.51 savings account 16/02/06
£4.94 Tax 8/3/06

They even taxed me on my savings i had less than £10 in there and they wonder why i dont put squat in.

[STEED]

Sounds to me Kapitain that are Mr Blair has raided your account to pay off his mortgage. Hands off Blair how dare you, better check mind just in case.

[Oberon]

Heh, Blair's taken enough money off me and my family to fund an invasion of Iran by ex-SAS mercenaries!

[micky1up]

sky the koran is a progressive and moderate book as with the bible you will always find a ****ing idiot who reads it and comes out with a extreme answer

open your mind


even christian's come out with ****e sometimes like the vicar who said that god sent the asian tusnami to wipe out the sin in that area

[STEED]

We want our money back Blair.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by micky1up

sky the koran is a progressive and moderate book as with the bible you will always find a F@&*#^! idiot who reads it and comes out with a extreme answer

even christian's come out with ****e sometimes like the vicar who said that god sent the asian tusnami to wipe out the sin in that area

For once, I'm actually in agreement with micky1up....

I'm going to go take a lie down...

[STEED]

Just saw this one as it's an American article that is an old tax that will be revamped called the window tax.

Here’s the Article -

Monday 27th March, 2006

British homeowners to pay for home details
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Big News Network.com Monday 27th March, 2006 (UPI)

Homeowners in Britain may have to pay up to $1,700 to help provide the government with detailed information on their home, yard and even views.

Details of the Home Information Pack, which the government will require whenever a home is sold, are to be revealed Monday.

The pack is designed to provide details of a property on the market, but some Conservative Party members say the detailed assessments could be used to increase property taxes, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

Those refusing to cooperate in assembling the Home Information Pack will be fined about $350, the Telegraph said.

It's estimated about 1.4 million packs will be produced annually. Currently, house details are only shared among the buyer, seller and mortgage provider, with little or no government involvement.

LINK - http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=d31bd2c83fc19d14

[micky1up]

thx oberon see im not right or wrong i have an opinion but there like *******s evryone has one

[Skybird]

I have commented often enough on the Qu'Ran, on it's history and the reasons that influenced it's present shape. I see no reason why I should change my opinion on it. If you people think that the Qu'ran is a modern, progressive book and will lead you to a better society, then you do not deserve it any better. But your ancestors who suffered for such a state of life being overcome, will turn in their graves.

Once again I say: there is no difference between fundamental and "real" Islam (I have explained where the misleading perception of the West, that this separation does exist, has come from, around one hundred years ago during the local rebellion against the Imperial powers in North-West-Africa). There is only one Islam - and that is the fighting Islam. there never has been a non_fighting Islam, nor is such an Islam descriobed in the Qu'ran or Hadith. It is a militant, intolerant ideology, driven by it's sense to be superior and having the mission to kill or convert5 anything non-Islamic, designed to justify conquest, and excusing intolerance by terms of a self-made, highly narcist cult that repalces culture and religion. It'S social ideal is a totalitarian society in which the single individual is nothing, the state/religion/community is all. Coexistence is unacceptable. attack is needed to delete coexistence, and to gain new ressources (remember, Muhammad was a predatory beduin in the first, who nevertheless wanted not to be called a bandit: thus his maneuvering into the religious feild where his demands could no longer be touched withoiut beeing called a heresy) If you do not realize this, if you think you must put it into more tolerant relations and approach it with reason and logic (Western style), then you are doomed to fall.

Our ancestors considered it to be modern to develope (under immense pains) beyond the unity of state and religion, that's why we have secular states in which both is kept separate. Qu'Ran preaches exactly the opposite, and not only that, no it preaches a religion of superstitious immitation only: immitation of virtual Muhammad that in that kind and form as he is described by Islam never has existed. How can educated Europeans consider an ideology to be progressive - if it leads them back to their violant past? In school you have learned why you should consider it as progressive, that these cruel, dark times of non-separation between religion and politics had been overcome.

Muslim societies have seen standstill in philosophy, sciences, theology, state theory, since centuries, social system and education since over thousand years. they are helpless agisnt there own tyrantsa, because these tyrants necessarily must be raised and supported by the system of politics and religion in one hand. The Western raise of all these virtues and developements, plus the canon of the typical Western values, Islam cannot compensate by any developement like that in it's own sphere. It works by only one simple mechanism: demanding what it wants, and when it does not get it, using force to take it, or saying it want's it because that is it's religion and Allah is demanding it like that. Intimidation and discrimination are part of the agenda. Critical questions get answered explicitly: with a sharp knife. when there are no questions anymore, then there is peace made in Islam. Cannot get more primitive like that. You better should be more careful what lecture you would call "progressive", guys.

again, there are several essay I have written on all this. Details there.