National Anthems

ikalugin · 11-10-14, 10:26 AM

Current Russian anthem uses the same music as the post 1943 Soviet one (the initial anthem was different - it was the Internationale in Russian), the wording too is very simmilar.

When I used to study in the British school we had to sing God Save the Queen several times a month

kranz · 11-10-14, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Current Russian anthem uses the same music as the post 1943 Soviet one (the initial anthem was different - it was the Internationale in Russian), the wording too is very simmilar.

surprise, surprise...

Dan D · 11-10-14, 11:01 AM

Das „Lied der Deutschen“ (Song of the Germans) became the national anthem in 1922.
It consists of three verses:

Deutschland „über alles“
German wine, German women, German singing
Freedom, Brotherhood, Equity

Verse 1 is often misinterpreted. When Hoffmann von Fallersleben wrote the lyrics in 1841 he was not anticipating Nazi world domination dreams but advoacting a unification of the German speaking single states.

The size of a German nation state back in 1841 would have been the land between the rivers „Maas“ to „Memel“ and „Etsch“ to „Belt". Because of the loss of territory in the 2 WW s, Germany is actually smaller today, „Maas“ is part of Belgium. „Memel“ part of Russia and Lithuania, „Etsch“ Italy and „Belt“ Denmark.

So singing the first verse today may raise some concerns in those countries. So polite as we are, we don't sing the first verse very much.
Fun fact, many people think it is „verboten“ by law to sing the first verse. That is wrong. You can sing all three verses as much as you won't.

It is the other way round, if people try to stop other people from singing the third verse this may get them into Trouble.

3 West German politicians singing the anthem on 11/10 1989, the day after East-Germany had opened its border:

Lucky Starr · 11-10-14, 11:10 AM

Here the anthem from Austria (not Australia, because we have no Kangaroos except in the Zoo). It is based on a work from W.A. Mozart. Some years ago the text was official changed slighty, but I am sure the most of our people don't like this change.

This is one of our unofficial annthems:

MGR1 · 11-10-14, 11:39 AM

I guess "God Save the Queen" (or King, depending on whether it's a bloke on the throne!) doesn't really need any intro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen

I think everybody knows what it sounds like......

England mainly uses "God Save the Queen", but "Jerusalem" is gaining popularity:

http://www.nationalanthems.info/eng!jeru.htm

Northern Ireland uses "Danny Boy/Londonderry Air":

http://www.nationalanthems.info/nie.htm

Wales uses "Hen Wlad fy Nhadau", also known as "Land of my Fathers" in English:

http://www.nationalanthems.info/wal.htm

Last, but not least, Scotland has "Flower of Scotland":

http://www.nationalanthems.info/sco.htm

I'm going to be a bit controversial here, but although "Flower of Scotland" is stirring enough, I can't say I particularly like it, and I do think it's a bit of a dirge. It's also been described as a "grudge set to music", which is arguably true.

I'd rather something a bit happier and with a snappy tempo had been chosen, like "Scotland the Brave"!

Mike.

Betonov · 11-10-14, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Current Russian anthem uses the same music as the post 1943 Soviet one (the initial anthem was different - it was the Internationale in Russian), the wording too is very simmilar.

When I used to study in the British school we had to sing God Save the Queen several times a month

You mean:

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Originally Posted by kranz

surprise, surprise...

And you wanted to say

Moonlight · 11-10-14, 12:02 PM

The National Anthem of Italy was written by Goffredo Mameli in the autumn of 1847 but only became the Italian National Anthem in 1946.
Mameli was a Republican born in Genova in 1827 who joined the war with Garibaldi to fight the French troops. The French, at the time, were supporting the Catholic state in Rome.
Goffredo died 2 years after writing the Italian National Anthem. He was only 22 years old and his death was as a result of an infection due to a war injury. His remains are kept in the Mausoleum of the Janiculum.

11-10-14, 11:01 AM	#3
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Das „Lied der Deutschen“ (Song of the Germans) became the national anthem in 1922. It consists of three verses: Deutschland „über alles“ German wine, German women, German singing Freedom, Brotherhood, Equity Verse 1 is often misinterpreted. When Hoffmann von Fallersleben wrote the lyrics in 1841 he was not anticipating Nazi world domination dreams but advoacting a unification of the German speaking single states. The size of a German nation state back in 1841 would have been the land between the rivers „Maas“ to „Memel“ and „Etsch“ to „Belt". Because of the loss of territory in the 2 WW s, Germany is actually smaller today, „Maas“ is part of Belgium. „Memel“ part of Russia and Lithuania, „Etsch“ Italy and „Belt“ Denmark. So singing the first verse today may raise some concerns in those countries. So polite as we are, we don't sing the first verse very much. Fun fact, many people think it is „verboten“ by law to sing the first verse. That is wrong. You can sing all three verses as much as you won't. It is the other way round, if people try to stop other people from singing the third verse this may get them into Trouble. 3 West German politicians singing the anthem on 11/10 1989, the day after East-Germany had opened its border: __________________ Last edited by Dan D; 11-10-14 at 12:34 PM.

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Lucky Starr Bosun Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 65 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Here the anthem from Austria (not Australia, because we have no Kangaroos except in the Zoo). It is based on a work from W.A. Mozart. Some years ago the text was official changed slighty, but I am sure the most of our people don't like this change. This is one of our unofficial annthems: __________________ Greetings Lucky ------------ Angriff, ran, versenken

11-10-14, 11:39 AM	#5
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 980 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	I guess "God Save the Queen" (or King, depending on whether it's a bloke on the throne!) doesn't really need any intro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen I think everybody knows what it sounds like...... England mainly uses "God Save the Queen", but "Jerusalem" is gaining popularity: http://www.nationalanthems.info/eng!jeru.htm Northern Ireland uses "Danny Boy/Londonderry Air": http://www.nationalanthems.info/nie.htm Wales uses "Hen Wlad fy Nhadau", also known as "Land of my Fathers" in English: http://www.nationalanthems.info/wal.htm Last, but not least, Scotland has "Flower of Scotland": http://www.nationalanthems.info/sco.htm I'm going to be a bit controversial here, but although "Flower of Scotland" is stirring enough, I can't say I particularly like it, and I do think it's a bit of a dirge. It's also been described as a "grudge set to music", which is arguably true. I'd rather something a bit happier and with a snappy tempo had been chosen, like "Scotland the Brave"! Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

11-10-14, 10:26 AM	#1
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Current Russian anthem uses the same music as the post 1943 Soviet one (the initial anthem was different - it was the Internationale in Russian), the wording too is very simmilar. When I used to study in the British school we had to sing God Save the Queen several times a month

11-10-14, 12:02 PM	#7
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	The National Anthem of Italy was written by Goffredo Mameli in the autumn of 1847 but only became the Italian National Anthem in 1946. Mameli was a Republican born in Genova in 1827 who joined the war with Garibaldi to fight the French troops. The French, at the time, were supporting the Catholic state in Rome. Goffredo died 2 years after writing the Italian National Anthem. He was only 22 years old and his death was as a result of an infection due to a war injury. His remains are kept in the Mausoleum of the Janiculum.