Orbital CRS-3 Rocket explodes t+6 seconds

Skybird · 10-28-14, 06:14 PM

Was that that new capsule that is meant to supply the ISS and bring the US back into manned space flight, or was it something different?

Skybird · 10-28-14, 06:15 PM

No need top reply, it is Cygnus. German news now also covers it.

Onkel Neal · 10-28-14, 07:28 PM

Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

Dread Knot · 10-28-14, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

Well...Russia could be part of the problem. As far as I understand it, these rocket engines being used in Cygnus are old refurbished engines from the Soviet N1 moon rocket program.

They have had some issues with failures during testing in the past. One for example determined to be caused by "kerosene fuel leak in engine manifold due to stress corrosion cracking of the 40 year old metal". Here's a Popular Mechanics article if you want to read more.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...aunch-14991680

Skybird · 10-28-14, 08:21 PM

Chinese chips in American hightech weapons.

Russian engines in American space rockets.

What's next? Northkorean burgers at McDonalds?

Dread Knot · 10-28-14, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Chinese chips in American hightech weapons.

Russian engines in American space rockets.

What's next? Northkorean burgers at McDonalds?

magicstix · 10-28-14, 09:26 PM

I had thought about getting a job at Orbital Sciences... Now I'm not so sure...

In any case, Elon Musk is no doubt stroking his white persian cat and grinning maniacally.

Jimbuna · 10-29-14, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Chinese chips in American hightech weapons.

Russian engines in American space rockets.

What's next? Northkorean burgers at McDonalds?

Could well be.

My understanding is that refurbished Russian engines were used.

ikalugin · 10-29-14, 08:01 AM

Yes, old (1970s Soviet Lunar program) NK33 engines refurbished by Ukrainian Yuzhnoye Design Bureau to the Air Jet 26 standard.

TorpX · 10-28-14, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

We better stock up on candles, for when the grid goes down.

eddie · 10-29-14, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

Check out NASA's record with rockets back in the day, seems like every other one blew up on the pad! These are new companies getting into rocket design, and it appears they are taking short cuts that aren't working out real well. But we have had plenty of Atlas and Titan rockets do the same thing sadly.

Aktungbby · 10-29-14, 12:31 PM

Oberon · 10-29-14, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

Because German rockets were that reliable:

Still, at least no-one was killed in this incident, and there'll be others...no new rocket is problem-free...the amount of times the Titan blew up during launch, but it became the most relied and trusted launch vehicle in the US arsenal, likewise NASA.

I think my favourite explosion was the Delta II in 1997, a ruptured SRM casing set off the auto-destruct thirteen seconds after launch.

Until we build a space elevator, or some form of mass driver then we're stuck with the old and inefficient solid-fuel propellant devices and the costs involved with them. It's all rather short-sighted...but humanity is, really, otherwise we'd have globalised the space program by now and actually be making strides to get an off-planet facility working.

EDIT: Oh...almost forgot my second favourite rocket fail, the Zenit 3SL, which managed to melt the launchpad underneath it and fall into the sea:

Aktungbby · 10-29-14, 01:12 PM

Perhaps necessity will speed up the mother of invention! just to stay a step ahead of the tribulation!!

Oberon · 10-29-14, 01:14 PM

I dunno...I think the answer might just fall on us one day...

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No need top reply, it is Cygnus. German news now also covers it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Our backward march continues... hey, Russia, can you help us with our rockets? We don't have any more German scientists from WWII.

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magicstix Captain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nuclear submarine under the North Pole Posts: 481 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I had thought about getting a job at Orbital Sciences... Now I'm not so sure... In any case, Elon Musk is no doubt stroking his white persian cat and grinning maniacally.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Yes, old (1970s Soviet Lunar program) NK33 engines refurbished by Ukrainian Yuzhnoye Design Bureau to the Air Jet 26 standard.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I dunno...I think the answer might just fall on us one day...