Fortress - A Russian Short Film

ikalugin · 10-05-14, 08:56 PM

I wasn't talking about the films that you have linked, I appologise for any confusion my unclear statement lead to.

My point was (and is) that most sci fi series with star ship combat, essentially use WW2 like naval combat practices/combat style. This is especially true for the Star Wars series for example.

In the original OP video this is represented by the (for the example):
- propeller driven bomber.
- use of short ranged cannon based weapons.

Stealhead · 10-05-14, 09:46 PM

I think they this because the human element of WWII techonolgy creates an element of excitment that would not be as easy to portray other wise. It creates tension.

For example in Star Wars in final battle Darth Vader is about to destroy Lukes X-wing you are the edge of your seat wondering how Luke will survive. With more computerized action the tension would be lost you not have the good vs evil feel if it was just pushing a button. Of course I see Star Wars (4,5,6) as closer to WWI air combat.

The first film for example would have dull without that element. Also creative license and alternate time means that you create your own future or past in which techonolgy advanced in diffrent way than it has in our world assuming the story even takes place in our exact universe.

ikalugin · 10-05-14, 10:06 PM

Sound still does not travel in vacuum.

And yes, I wish sci fi was realistic, such a horrible person I am (and no, I don't like Gravity either for the blunders they made there).

Stealhead · 10-05-14, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Sound still does not travel in vacuum.

And yes, I wish sci fi was realistic, such a horrible person I am (and no, I don't like Gravity either for the blunders they made there).

Never watched Gravity but just want to point out that is science fiction not science fact.

The sounds in space thing is another effect of the audio visual nature of film and the fact one must keep the viewer interested.

Kubrick pulled of the vacum and no sound in 2001 again though he used the silence to add effect in that case the silence added tension. In other films like Alien the ship making noise helps convey a feeling of dread.

Not saying you are horriable person myself the real world can be enough to deal with. When I read a book or watch a movie I want an escape from reality.

ikalugin · 10-05-14, 10:23 PM

It is about the willing suspense of disbelief actually in my case (or lack of) I think.

Stealhead · 10-05-14, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

It is about the willing suspense of disbelief actually in my case (or lack of) I think.

Not sure I follow you.

What is a good example of sci-fi to you? Film seeing as that is topic.

ikalugin · 10-05-14, 10:39 PM

That is the issue, no Sci Fi work quite fits my criteria, maybe I should lower them

That said I did like the 2001 when I was younger.

10-05-14, 09:46 PM	#2
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think they this because the human element of WWII techonolgy creates an element of excitment that would not be as easy to portray other wise. It creates tension. For example in Star Wars in final battle Darth Vader is about to destroy Lukes X-wing you are the edge of your seat wondering how Luke will survive. With more computerized action the tension would be lost you not have the good vs evil feel if it was just pushing a button. Of course I see Star Wars (4,5,6) as closer to WWI air combat. The first film for example would have dull without that element. Also creative license and alternate time means that you create your own future or past in which techonolgy advanced in diffrent way than it has in our world assuming the story even takes place in our exact universe. Last edited by Stealhead; 10-05-14 at 09:58 PM.

10-05-14, 08:56 PM	#1
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I wasn't talking about the films that you have linked, I appologise for any confusion my unclear statement lead to. My point was (and is) that most sci fi series with star ship combat, essentially use WW2 like naval combat practices/combat style. This is especially true for the Star Wars series for example. In the original OP video this is represented by the (for the example): - propeller driven bomber. - use of short ranged cannon based weapons.

10-05-14, 10:06 PM	#3
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Sound still does not travel in vacuum. And yes, I wish sci fi was realistic, such a horrible person I am (and no, I don't like Gravity either for the blunders they made there).

10-05-14, 10:23 PM	#5
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It is about the willing suspense of disbelief actually in my case (or lack of) I think.

10-05-14, 10:39 PM	#7
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	That is the issue, no Sci Fi work quite fits my criteria, maybe I should lower them That said I did like the 2001 when I was younger.