Rifle Marksmanship - US Marine Corps Training Video 1999

Feuer Frei! · 09-30-14, 03:33 AM

Some good stuff in here:

Takes me back to the Army days when going for my crossed rifles (Marksman).

Platapus · 09-30-14, 03:29 PM

"Those individuals showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do!"

Onkel Neal · 10-01-14, 01:15 AM

Good video. I'm reading a WWI history, and the author stressed the importance of the BEF being able to place 30 accurate rounds a minute with their Lee-Enfield .303 rifles to the arrest of the German right wing.

Wolferz · 10-01-14, 09:30 AM

Aim center mass and kill a commie for your mommy was the mantra when I went through. I wonder what replaced commie?
We even got to shoot little Russian targets on the little Russians range.
Those targets were much easier to spot than the ones on our qualifying range. Light green compared to dark green and convex compared to flat.
But I still hit 31 out of 40 for a Sharpshooter badge.

Those dark green targets at 300 meters in dense woods were almost impossible to see, much less draw a sight picture on.

Also, my rifle was made by General Motors, not Colt.

There was one laughable thing in that video. The recoil. The M-16 doesn't kick like that when you fire it. The recoil piston and spring in the stock prevents that. Though it would bloody your nose with the charging handle if you placed your cheek/stock weld too close to it. We had one instructor demonstrate the weapon on full auto with the butt seated firmly in his crotch. The only time I ever had a problem hitting a target was when we fired with a protective mask on.

Stealhead · 10-01-14, 10:23 PM

The one really needs his combat glasses with those I had no trouble with the gas mask shooting. Course they changed to a much better mask in the 90's. Things have changed a bit for example keeping boths eye open improves depth preception. You can just barely open your weak eye.

The army and marines also have differing battle sight zeros.

Wolferz · 10-03-14, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

The one really needs his combat glasses with those I had no trouble with the gas mask shooting. Course they changed to a much better mask in the 90's. Things have changed a bit for example keeping boths eye open improves depth preception. You can just barely open your weak eye.

The army and marines also have differing battle sight zeros.

Marines don't zero their weapon sights from 25 meters?

I never liked the two windowed protective mask and always felt that it should have been a full face shield like a firefighter's MSA mask. Drawing a sight bead with the weapon turned sideways was almost impossible.

Range Walk Private!

Aktungbby · 10-03-14, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Good video. I'm reading a WWI history, and the author stressed the importance of the BEF being able to place 30 accurate rounds a minute with their Lee-Enfield .303 rifles to the arrest of the German right wing.

Indeed as I have referenced in some other posts: 'Mad minute' was a pre-WW I term used by British riflemen during training at the School of Musketry to describe scoring a minimum of 15 hits onto a 12" round target at 300 yards (270 m) within one minute using a bolt-action rifle Lee-Enfield or Lee-Metford rifle). It was not uncommon during the First and Second World War for riflemen to greatly exceed this score. Many riflemen could average 30 plus shots. The record, set in 1914 by Sergeant Instructor Alfred Snoxall, was 38 hits. During the Battle of Mons, there were numerous German accounts of coming up against what they believed was machine gun fire fire when in fact it was squads of riflemen firing at this rate. Von Clausewitz rule two: "Whenever possible increase firepower"...now do it fast and accurate...turned back on the Kaiser's troops

09-30-14, 03:33 AM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Rifle Marksmanship - US Marine Corps Training Video 1999 Some good stuff in here: Takes me back to the Army days when going for my crossed rifles (Marksman). __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	"Those individuals showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do!" __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Good video. I'm reading a WWI history, and the author stressed the importance of the BEF being able to place 30 accurate rounds a minute with their Lee-Enfield .303 rifles to the arrest of the German right wing. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-01-14, 09:30 AM	#4
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Aim center mass and kill a commie for your mommy was the mantra when I went through. I wonder what replaced commie? We even got to shoot little Russian targets on the little Russians range. Those targets were much easier to spot than the ones on our qualifying range. Light green compared to dark green and convex compared to flat. But I still hit 31 out of 40 for a Sharpshooter badge. Those dark green targets at 300 meters in dense woods were almost impossible to see, much less draw a sight picture on. Also, my rifle was made by General Motors, not Colt. There was one laughable thing in that video. The recoil. The M-16 doesn't kick like that when you fire it. The recoil piston and spring in the stock prevents that. Though it would bloody your nose with the charging handle if you placed your cheek/stock weld too close to it. We had one instructor demonstrate the weapon on full auto with the butt seated firmly in his crotch. The only time I ever had a problem hitting a target was when we fired with a protective mask on. __________________ Tomorrow never comes Last edited by Wolferz; 10-01-14 at 09:43 AM.

10-01-14, 10:23 PM	#5
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The one really needs his combat glasses with those I had no trouble with the gas mask shooting. Course they changed to a much better mask in the 90's. Things have changed a bit for example keeping boths eye open improves depth preception. You can just barely open your weak eye. The army and marines also have differing battle sight zeros. Last edited by Stealhead; 10-01-14 at 10:58 PM.