Jim Jefferies - Gun Control

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Comedy does not equal facts.

He is a comedian, not a political analyst
He is a comedian, no legislation will be influenced by this comedian
He tells jokes. That's what he does.

Hmm...

e.g., Will Rogers, Mort Sahl, Dick Gregory, Mark Twain...


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[Aktungbby]

George Carlin: Exposing our government and the fall of Humanity!

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by DJ Kelley

All I will say is he has a great accent. Yea Matey.

Now read this one. Sure you got out of massacres, but what did you gain in exchange?

See he is trying to lead everyone to believe that once Australia passed there gun ban, everything just became hunky dory. Not so much. Just read the second link.

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter...fter-gun-bans/

http://www.worldpublicunion.org/2013...ime-rates.html

Originally Posted by DJ Kelley

All you have to do is a Google Search for Australian Crime rates after Gun Control.

You will get multiple sources. Have at it. I'm sure you will find some who are credible and others who are less so. The link I posted didn't mention that the rape rate went up significantly also.

And look which one is the first link when you do that search http://theconversation.com/faking-wa...me-stats-11678

Come back when you actually know what you are talking about and we may be able to have a reasonable conversation about the subject.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Comedy does not equal facts.

He is a comedian, not a political analyst
He is a comedian, no legislation will be influenced by this comedian
He tells jokes. That's what he does.

Correct. One of the "facts" he misinformed his audience on was that we can't get guns down here.

Certain guns are not available to the general public without special license restrictions and other weapons can be purchased as long as you have a license and the appropriate storage facilities which are subject to a police check prior to purchase.

Of course explaining that in a comedy routine would be needlessly tedious.

What he got right is that we've thrown out the spurious home defence argument and replaced it with the "I like guns" argument. Which in all honesty is the only argument that makes sense.

[GoldenRivet]

It's funny to me that he talks about lies and BS

Then admonishes us for having "assault rifles"

1. it's already illegal to own an assault rifle in the United States of America (without being a member of law-enforcement military or otherwise specially licensed to do so)

2. I defy anyone who's reading this to tell me where I - as an average joe - can walk into any store in this country and with a five-minute background check by a fully automatic machine gun.

3. It is true that I do own an AR-15. Other than the pistol grip and the "militarized look" of the rifle, it fires the exact same around, at the exact same rate of fire as my old fashioned looking wooden stock hunting rifle (which for about $100 could be made to look just like an M-16)

When I was 17 years old I had an old V-6 Ford Mustang. It wasnt very fast 0 to 60 time of about 6 1/2 seconds seven seconds maybe? It didn't have the throaty rumble of the V-8. It would barely go 100 miles an hour.

I put stripes on it

Suddenly everybody on the block thought I had a race car.

It's the same thing with that old hunting rifle, change out a couple of pieces of cheap cosmetic hardware & put a pistol grip on it suddenly you've got a mass murdering machine of death.

That's what drives me crazy about the pro-gun control bunch

On a daily basis many of them demonstrate to me a complete lack of knowledge on the subject of firearms. It amazes me how many of them are convinced that you can walk into a Sack-n-save and buy a fully automatic fresh out of the Army military style assault rifle with your 24 pack of beer.

It's stupid.

[TarJak]

It's comedy it's meant to be stupid.. Get over it.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by TarJak

It's comedy it's meant to be stupid.. Get over it.

I agree that it was funny even if the man is as educated on firearms as an eight-year-old is on the subject of quantum physics.

[TarJak]

Do you mean this one? http://mobile.news.com.au/world/chil...-1226706742607

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Do you mean this one? http://mobile.news.com.au/world/chil...-1226706742607

1. You failed to read my post as I said eight-year-olds your link is for an 11-year-old

2. Do you mean to indicate that every 11-year-old on the planet earth exhibits that intelligence and IQ?

Come on Tar

Really?

Folks don't have to like the fact that I own an "assault death weapon machine ghost gun with the thing that goes up"

All they have to do is respect my right to own guns... Even if there are people that don't understand a thing about them

[TarJak]

That's comedy for you.

Read the story. He's been doing quantum physics since before he was 8.

And you like guns. Enjoy them safely.

[Oberon]

He lost me when he used his one experience (being robbed while he was naked) a base for every home robbery in the World.

Because he was naked, I guess everyone else will be just as unable to get to a gun if they had one.

Then I am reminded of the growing crime spree taking place in the United States. That is home invasion. These people are not interested in your TV, and in most cases are not interested in anything except breaking in to your home.

The problem is, in most cases they only plan on getting in. They make no plans for getting out. That's when they start displaying the true freaks that they are, and begin tormenting your family right in front of you stuff like that.

And there are multiple cases every year of people waking up in the middle of the night to a break in. Giving them plenty of time to open the safe, load the gun, find the criminal, and take care of business.

[Oberon]

[TarJak]

Another one misses the point.

[Buddahaid]

Well I like my guns but I'm ambivalent about their practical use in a home invasion so I keep mine locked up. If someone invades my home I'd have to ask them politely to please wait there while I go get my gun.

And I see the point but I prefer it as is, risks and all.