Did Tony Stewart murder fellow driver? - Page 2

Buddahaid · 08-11-14, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Not to me, the engine fews seems to crank up just before he hit the guy. The bad thing, that was an extreme rev and speed jump to do under caution, you certainly wouldn't do it to avoid someone. Look who it just happened to be, the two that got together....I just hope it was an aggressive F you move that went bad..

So we have a perfect example why eyewitness accounts are questionable.

TarJak · 08-11-14, 05:37 AM

Stewart does have a temper, but can't say whether he'd go to hurt someone.

les green01 · 08-11-14, 08:57 AM

oh smoke has a temp that for sure I only seen one video of this is there another one cause I sure cant tell if it smoke rev is engine or a speed jump or is people just assuming it come from smoke course i'm from Missouri the show me state.i been to races where they be bunch up I be like this guy doing great just to find out he was the last place driver

Armistead · 08-11-14, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

So we have a perfect example why eyewitness accounts are questionable.

More like video of two stupid people, where one was killed by the other.

I don't think this has happened in racing before quite like this. Police certainly are looking at it, but I don't suspect charges, unless Tony admits. Yesterdays nascar race and most the race shows they talked about how racers get so mad they lose reason and forget logic and make aggressive moves like this to say screw you. I think people will have to take a new look, because often in sports people hurt on purpose, even kill, when it has no part of the game and get by with it, least not charged criminally.

Heck, at the Madhouse here here in Winston Salem {you may remember it on the History Channel}, you see this all the time, just nobody dead yet. Look at these nuts, wreck and cars chase each other through the field trying to get at each other with people around.

Then this.....Where drivers peod wait on purpose to wreck someone. What if that hit killed the guy

Worse, seldom to drivers suffer any penalty for such action, but often here if they cuss after a victory on the mic, they do...

The Madhouse is fun to visit, even if you're not into racing, Redneck fights everywhere,.etc....best girl fights for sure, but nobody should be subject to death..

Jimbuna · 08-11-14, 01:57 PM

A tragic and avoidable accident in my book.

08-11-14, 02:21 PM

Looks like another Darwin Award to me.
Or simply just natural selection...

CaptainHaplo · 08-11-14, 09:20 PM

First - I am a nascar fan - but not a stewart fan. Even if he does own the organization my driver races for.

This should be an involuntary manslaughter with mitigating circumstances - Tony would not intentionally run someone over, but his actions (in concert with those of the victim) did cause the victim's death. His choice to hit the gas increased the impact speed and threw the kid quite a ways.

Armistead · 08-11-14, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

First - I am a nascar fan - but not a stewart fan. Even if he does own the organization my driver races for.

This should be an involuntary manslaughter with mitigating circumstances - Tony would not intentionally run someone over, but his actions (in concert with those of the victim) did cause the victim's death. His choice to hit the gas increased the impact speed and threw the kid quite a ways.

Racing like many sports is a gladiator sport, people want to see wrecks and fights. Sure you've been to races and living in NC I use to go to a lot of them. When two drivers went at each other in car or track, the fans go into a frenzy. I don't see anything legal stopping this, other than a few rules.

fireftr18 · 08-12-14, 08:53 PM

The drivers are supposed to stay in the vehicle until told by the jump medic it is okay to get out. Not all of them listen, and put themselves into danger like that. Some of the people I work with at Kentucky Speedway who have had interaction with Stewart say he is one of the nicest drivers in NASCAR. I have seen the drivers, when driving to the garage, push the clutch in, and gun the engine. The cars don't have horns, so something needs to be done to warn people.

Armistead · 08-13-14, 02:23 PM

More breaking news

http://video.foxnews.com/v/372817601...#sp=show-clips

Buddahaid · 08-13-14, 04:12 PM

Fox fanning the flames again with nothing of substance to add.

Jimbuna · 08-14-14, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Fox fanning the flames again with nothing of substance to add.

I shudder at the thought of the BBC ever aspiring to the same level.

Aktungbby · 08-14-14, 07:53 AM

I believe the track waiver signed by participants will supersede all other issues. Of the four things in the accident video The deceased man did three of them and is primarily responsible. 1) He got out of the car; 2) he became or was less than cool headed; 3) he walked into the flow of traffic. 4) Mr. Stewart hit him. To misquote a previous court decision; speed and danger of impact is "intrinsic to the nature of the sport". A professional driver is aware of this and should have acted accordingly to mitigate any hazard potential. The young man did not.

fireftr18 · 08-14-14, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

I believe the track waiver signed by participants will supersede all other issues. Of the four things in the accident video The deceased man did three of them and is primarily responsible. 1) He got out of the car; 2) he became or was less than cool headed; 3) he walked into the flow of traffic. 4) Mr. Stewart hit him. To misquote a previous court decision; speed and danger of impact is "intrinsic to the nature of the sport". A professional driver is aware of this and should have acted accordingly to mitigate any hazard potential. The young man did not.

Even I have to sign a waiver when I work at the Speedway for the same thing. Okay, we're on the track under yellow flag conditions, but they still drive 80mph (128.7kph). There are certain ways we're supposed to park the trucks, certain ways we walk on the track. It's all meant to keep us, and the driver, safe. Next race you watch, pay attention to the fire/rescue team.

Wolferz · 08-15-14, 06:41 AM

Loves to try cases in the media. They have long since abandoned the concept of reporting the news and now get off on injecting their personal views and opinions in every story they report. It's disgusting!

I have nothing but sympathy for Kevin Ward and his family but, technically, he was the one who caused his own death by getting out of his car and strutting across the track like an angry rooster looking to spur somebody.

I guess his parents never taught him... "Don't get mad. Get even."
He could have returned the favor in the next race. That's how most drivers handle it.

08-11-14, 08:57 AM	#18
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1416 Uploads: 0	oh smoke has a temp that for sure I only seen one video of this is there another one cause I sure cant tell if it smoke rev is engine or a speed jump or is people just assuming it come from smoke course i'm from Missouri the show me state.i been to races where they be bunch up I be like this guy doing great just to find out he was the last place driver __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

08-11-14, 01:57 PM	#20
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,300 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A tragic and avoidable accident in my book. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-11-14, 09:20 PM	#22
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	First - I am a nascar fan - but not a stewart fan. Even if he does own the organization my driver races for. This should be an involuntary manslaughter with mitigating circumstances - Tony would not intentionally run someone over, but his actions (in concert with those of the victim) did cause the victim's death. His choice to hit the gas increased the impact speed and threw the kid quite a ways. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

08-12-14, 08:53 PM	#24
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	The drivers are supposed to stay in the vehicle until told by the jump medic it is okay to get out. Not all of them listen, and put themselves into danger like that. Some of the people I work with at Kentucky Speedway who have had interaction with Stewart say he is one of the nicest drivers in NASCAR. I have seen the drivers, when driving to the garage, push the clutch in, and gun the engine. The cars don't have horns, so something needs to be done to warn people. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

08-13-14, 02:23 PM	#25
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	More breaking news http://video.foxnews.com/v/372817601...#sp=show-clips __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

08-11-14, 05:37 AM	#17
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Stewart does have a temper, but can't say whether he'd go to hurt someone.

08-11-14, 02:21 PM	#21
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Looks like another Darwin Award to me. Or simply just natural selection...

08-13-14, 04:12 PM	#26
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,334 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Fox fanning the flames again with nothing of substance to add. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-14-14, 07:53 AM	#28
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,138 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I believe the track waiver signed by participants will supersede all other issues. Of the four things in the accident video The deceased man did three of them and is primarily responsible. 1) He got out of the car; 2) he became or was less than cool headed; 3) he walked into the flow of traffic. 4) Mr. Stewart hit him. To misquote a previous court decision; speed and danger of impact is "intrinsic to the nature of the sport". A professional driver is aware of this and should have acted accordingly to mitigate any hazard potential. The young man did not. __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

08-15-14, 06:41 AM	#30
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Faux News... Loves to try cases in the media. They have long since abandoned the concept of reporting the news and now get off on injecting their personal views and opinions in every story they report. It's disgusting! I have nothing but sympathy for Kevin Ward and his family but, technically, he was the one who caused his own death by getting out of his car and strutting across the track like an angry rooster looking to spur somebody. I guess his parents never taught him... "Don't get mad. Get even." He could have returned the favor in the next race. That's how most drivers handle it. __________________ Tomorrow never comes