SH3 Commander settings do not "take"

[desirableroasted]

Thank you for the advice:

Auto rollback is checked, but I have always done that.
WIN7, but that is also not new.
SH3 is installed under Steam in the program files. I have not had an issue with that before, but certainly worth looking into.

I probably will not get back to t his before next weekend, but I appreciate any and all advice, and will keep you posted.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

Thank you for the advice:

Auto rollback is checked, but I have always done that.
WIN7, but that is also not new.
SH3 is installed under Steam in the program files. I have not had an issue with that before, but certainly worth looking into.

I probably will not get back to t his before next weekend, but I appreciate any and all advice, and will keep you posted.

Aha! Another example of the fact that the Steam version does not behave in the same way as the publisher's version, which is what all other vendors sell. It isn't that the Steam version doesn't work, but it does seem to require different handling. Maybe check out Desertstriker's tutorials on YouTube that have detailed instructions for how to set up the Steam version for trouble-free performance.

Has anyone ever experienced this problem who doesn't use the Steam version?

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Aha! Another example of the fact that the Steam version does not behave in the same way as the publisher's version, which is what all other vendors sell. It isn't that the Steam version doesn't work, but it does seem to require different handling. Maybe check out Desertstriker's tutorials on YouTube that have detailed instructions for how to set up the Steam version for trouble-free performance.

Has anyone ever experienced this problem who doesn't use the Steam version?

Good point, Walleye, and I will look into it. I am dismayed, though, that the past two installs, also steam, worked fine.

I will research during the week. And dont mind doing a complete rip out and reinstall if that is what it takes.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

Good point, Walleye, and I will look into it. I am dismayed, though, that the past two installs, also steam, worked fine.

I will research during the week. And dont mind doing a complete rip out and reinstall if that is what it takes.

IF a complete reinstall will fix the problem, instead of just resetting things. If it craps out again after 2 or 3 patrols, that could get awfully frustrating! Is there some way we could flag this issue and see how many others have encountered it? Maybe a pattern might show up. I pointed a finger at Steam, but other folks use Steam without this problem. And SH3C. And Win&. And AFAIK, all of them together.

I hope the gang here at SubSim can help you guys figure out a permanent solution. Something like this could be a real buzzkill. Especially considering how much SH3C adds to the game. Best if luck with it!

[Andrewsdad]

FWIW When I start a new career I always use SH3C even for the first "qualifying" patrol. I have never started apart from Commander and have had no troubles.....

Good Luck, Sir

AD

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by Andrewsdad

FWIW When I start a new career I always use SH3C even for the first "qualifying" patrol. I have never started apart from Commander and have had no troubles.....

Good Luck, Sir

AD

Yeah, I did not make myself clear. I meant the first run after the complete new install.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by Andrewsdad

FWIW When I start a new career I always use SH3C even for the first "qualifying" patrol. I have never started apart from Commander and have had no troubles.....

Good Luck, Sir

AD

I tried it. Did the first patrol with just SH3, then used SH3C for the rest. Couldn't get it to fail in 15 (short!) patrols! That's not causing the problem.

[Gargamel]

I know I've posted a similar issue about the steam version years ago. I had to either leave autorollback checked or unchecked. I dont remember which now.

[storm-petrel]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Aha! Another example of the fact that the Steam version does not behave in the same way as the publisher's version, which is what all other vendors sell. It isn't that the Steam version doesn't work, but it does seem to require different handling. Maybe check out Desertstriker's tutorials on YouTube that have detailed instructions for how to set up the Steam version for trouble-free performance.

Has anyone ever experienced this problem who doesn't use the Steam version?

Using a genuine CD version of SH3 / GWX I have encountered similar problems to those mentioned.

I always check the Commander 'automatic rollback' box ; and leave it as default. I have noticed on several occasions that some of the options and mods seem to work randomly.

For instance despite checking 'start patrol at sea' option in Commander, it does not always do this, and I'll have to begin from the harbour.

I have the 'all-weather guns' mod enabled (via JScones excellent add-on) but this again does not always work for some reason.

Ironically I have never encountered a problem when saving a game when submerged or near enemy shipping.

My laptop runs Windows 8 (hate it) and the other thing is it may take several attempts before I can load SH3, without a warning stating that the program has stopped working.

I have absolutely no idea as to what may be causing any of this...so I'm sorry that I cannot be of any help.

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by storm-petrel

Using a genuine CD version of SH3 / GWX I have encountered similar problems to those mentioned... [SNIP] I have absolutely no idea as to what may be causing any of this...so I'm sorry that I cannot be of any help.

No, I appreciate it Petrel... any insight helps!

[Pisces]

Where is SH3 Commander installed? It too has a setting file (SH3Cmdr.ini) in it's root folder, and also a !BACKUP folder in it. If it is somewhere inside the Program Files folder than Windows might object to saving those settings and files there.