Did i just waste my money????

[revanche]

I usually buy my games through Steam, but numerous posts here advised against that so chose the digital download from Ubisoft.

Thing is, there is no SH5.exe anywhere on my comp to mod. There isn't even a Silent Hunter game folder. There is only the ubisoft game launcher folder.

Am i screwed?

If so, are there ANY digital versions that can be modded? Amazon perhaps? A physical copy is not an option for me.

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by revanche

I usually buy my games through Steam, but numerous posts here advised against that so chose the digital download from Ubisoft.

Thing is, there is no SH5.exe anywhere on my comp to mod. There isn't even a Silent Hunter game folder. There is only the ubisoft game launcher folder.

Am i screwed?

If so, are there ANY digital versions that can be modded? Amazon perhaps? A physical copy is not an option for me.

Steam games = waste of money

[revanche]

I don't have the Steam version, but thx anyway.

The more i look, the more it appears the Ubisoft version is completely unmoddable which means they sold me a broken game.

I was hoping for a work-around but I am too pissed at Ubisoft to consider anything more than a refund. Live and learn.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

Steam games = waste of money

And why's that then?

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by revanche

I don't have the Steam version, but thx anyway.

The more i look, the more it appears the Ubisoft version is completely unmoddable which means they sold me a broken game.

I was hoping for a work-around but I am too pissed at Ubisoft to consider anything more than a refund. Live and learn.

The Amazon version works fine, gives you a local copy that you can mod to your heart's content. Costs about $10. Get it through the link at upper right and SubSim gets a (small) kickback. Nothing not to love!

You will need to mod the daylights out of the game, but there are a lot of excellent mods out there, and there are new ones every week. One of the "problems" I had with SH5 was that, every time I started a career, somebody released a new mod the I just "had to have." Install new mod, start new career, repeat.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by JU_88

And why's that then?

Because you can't use TDW's patches on the Steam version. That is quite sufficient reason to not buy the Steam game.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by revanche

I don't have the Steam version, but thx anyway.

The more i look, the more it appears the Ubisoft version is completely unmoddable which means they sold me a broken game.

I was hoping for a work-around but I am too pissed at Ubisoft to consider anything more than a refund. Live and learn.

Check Ebay or Amazon, you can get a DVD copy for peanuts.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Because you can't use TDW's patches on the Steam version. That is quite sufficient reason to not buy the Steam game.

But that's only one game you're talking about.
He said "steam games" (as in all steam games in general - which are usually just fine)
I don't know maybe I misunderstood him, nevermind.

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by JU_88

And why's that then?

to not have a solid version of the game here i mean ( DVD, CD version )it's pretty crap cos there is lots of steam games witch one have problems with mods or user made patches .... or even wors i know person who have bought a steam game and then had really big problems with the game ......

[JU_88]

Cant say I've ever had a problem personally,
But in this day and age we might need to start breaking our attachment to owning a game on DVD. I really don't think it will be too long before PC gaming abandons DVD distribution, optical media as a whole is in a steady decline, and retailers who specialise in it have been dropping like flies over the last decade. I reckon once they have finally established fast internet connections in all those hard to reach areas, that will be the last nail in the coffin.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Cant say I've ever had a problem personally,
But in this day and age we might need to start breaking our attachment to owning a game on DVD. I really don't think it will be too long before PC gaming abandons DVD distribution, optical media as a whole is in a steady decline, and retailers who specialise in it have been dropping like flies over the last decade. I reckon once they have finally established fast internet connections in all those hard to reach areas, that will be the last nail in the coffin.

And that will be the end of true indie games and the dominance of service bureaus like Steam who will dictate what games are permitted to flourish and what absurd DRM gamers must submit to if they want to play. JU-88, be careful what you wish for.

Service bureaus are nothing new. They have been around since IBM launched The Service Bureau in 1954. They entice people who want a "simple, non-technical" solution with minimal user responsibility and decision-making. "The Cloud" is just the latest incarnation. So far, every attempt to impose the service bureau model on an industry has broken down under the weight of its inherent rigidity and potential for monopolistic (or oligopolistic) exploitation of the user base. Hopefully, the computer gaming industry will not be the first to succumb.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

And that will be the end of true indie games and the dominance of service bureaus like Steam who will dictate what games are permitted to flourish and what absurd DRM gamers must submit to if they want to play. JU-88, be careful what you wish for.

Service bureaus are nothing new. They have been around since IBM launched The Service Bureau in 1954. They entice people who want a "simple, non-technical" solution with minimal user responsibility and decision-making. "The Cloud" is just the latest incarnation. So far, every attempt to impose the service bureau model on an industry has broken down under the weight of its inherent rigidity and potential for monopolistic (or oligopolistic) exploitation of the user base. Hopefully, the computer gaming industry will not be the first to succumb.

Its not what I wish for, I'm merely saying it is inevitable.
As for Digtial download being the end of Indie gaming, excuse me but say WHAT!!??
If anything the complete opposite is true, with Digital distribution we have seen an EXPLOSION of experimental indie games for the PC, because digital distribution costs the developer nothing! Cutting and distributing thousands, or even millions, of discs on the other hand... Now that's a monopoly - he with the most $$$ gets his umpteenth sequel of his triple A franchise not just a space on the shelf, but taking up the whole shelf or maybe more!
Speaking of which, digiital distribution doesn't suffer from limited shelf or ware house space, and you don't have retailers and supplier-middle men terrified of ordering niche games that might not sell, (so they will be stuck with it and out of pocket.)

Steam has a TON of indie games, that I doubt would ever have seen the light of day if it wasn't for digital distribution, either because the independent publisher couldn't bear the costs, or because it was simply refused by the high street & online retailers on the basis of being a too risky a product.
Steam might be 'picky' I don't know, but they sure can afford to be a lot less picky than those physically stocking optical media, since if it doesn't sell well, they lose nothing.

Also as far I am aware, Steam doesn't determine the DRM - if any, that's down to the Games publisher/developer. DRM can be and often is enforced on DVD games anyway.
Cloud is another story though.....
I'm more concerned about what 3d printing is going to do to manufacturing though, China better put their thinking hats on! because when that baby takes off, we could see a lot of factories shutting their doors for good!

[revanche]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

The Amazon version works fine, gives you a local copy that you can mod to your heart's content. Costs about $10. Get it through the link at upper right and SubSim gets a (small) kickback. Nothing not to love!

Good to know the Amazon version works. Unfortunately they only sell digital to US residents. Amazon Canada only has the dvd version for whatever reason.

My faulty dvdrom is making this more difficult than it should.

[JU_88]

Go to Ebay, you can pick up a copy of SH5 and a replacement DVD rom drive for less than $20 I bet. If you were in the UK, Id actually offer to send you both for cost of shipping only

[Captain_AJ]

Originally Posted by revanche

Good to know the Amazon version works. Unfortunately they only sell digital to US residents. Amazon Canada only has the dvd version for whatever reason.

My faulty dvdrom is making this more difficult than it should.

Dont Give up hope .. Its a really great game when you can mod it !! ..