DW and Windows 8.1 ?

BobbyZero · 07-30-14, 03:17 PM

There is a solution if you are willing to work with Linux. I'm royally pissed for over a year now because DW doesn't work with Win 8, since that left me without one of my 5 favorite games of all time. So I decided to give it a go on Linux, since I was thinking to experiment with Ubuntu anyway, and see if it's possible to ditch Windows altogether.

I installed Ubuntu 14:04 LTS to dual boot on my Windows 8.1 PC. In Ubuntu, I installed Wine (Windows emulator, you can find it easily and conveniently available in Ubuntu's built-in software center), and then installed DW through Wine. Before doing that I found an old thread here on Subsim forums about DW working in Wine, and the drawback that was emphasized in the post was that there is no sound when DW runs through Wine, and that you need to tamper with sound files in order to get them to work.

Still, I gave it a go, since the mentioned post is 4 years old and Wine has since been updated many times, and lo and behold - the sound files now work without any tampering or problems!

So, if you are screwed by Win 8 as I am, give Ubuntu/Wine combo a shot.

EDIT: I'm talking about DW vanilla with 1.04 patch, I didn't try any mods.

Jimbuna · 07-31-14, 06:28 AM

^ Great post

ikalugin · 08-13-14, 06:17 AM

I managed to get it working on win 8.1

What did I do?:
- install virtualbox.
- install xp there.
- install guest tools stuff.
- install the steam/dangerous waters.
- set the 3d acceleration on.
- set the few colours mode on for the game. (this allows you to use a proper cursor)

This allows me to run the game, however the 3d models do not work properly (under water objects do not render properly, only sea surface is present, there is no main water body or sea bottom).

Pisces · 08-13-14, 05:27 PM

Good for you that it works. But running it in a Windows XP virtual machine does not mean that it works in Windows 8.1. The OS inside the virtual machine is a totally seperate system from the host OS. You made the game run in a simulated pc, that's all. It's still a feat if you get decent performance in it, but it does not solve the Windows 8 incompatibility.

ikalugin · 08-14-14, 04:17 AM

Yes and I still get graphics and performance issues.

Graphics issues:
- in all modes/mods I get the strage morphings of under water objects and general water screw ups. Can be seen on this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=300018025
screenshot.

Performance issues:
- even though I have a modern CPU (with frequency well above the required one) the game appears to run out of the CPU resources for some reason (XP says that 100 percent of the CPU resources are used and game has low FPS).

ikalugin · 08-14-14, 04:27 AM

Also - it appears to me that AI is not working as intended, Burke failed to intercept any of the sizlers I fired against him (I have fired 4 on the carrier group but they all locked onto one escort)

Pisces · 08-14-14, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Also - it appears to me that AI is not working as intended, Burke failed to intercept any of the sizlers I fired against him (I have fired 4 on the carrier group but they all locked onto one escort)

Have you checked with show truth on? The contact location is only as accurate as your identification of your sensors was, and the tma done on the lines of bearing. What you might have thought was real could have been a sensor ghost or at a wrong range. Also, the missile seeker locks on what it finds in the real world. It doesn't care if it is a carrier or a small tug. Even if you want it to be the Burke.

Pisces · 08-14-14, 04:34 AM

You might want to investigate if your host CPU has hardware support for virtualization. For Intel it is called Intel VT, for AMD it is AMD-V. You may also need to enable a bios option for this. If the cpu does not have it then it has to be done in software emulation. That obviously takes more resources. Maybe there are some tweaksettings for Virtualbox. But gaming on a virtual machine is often like winning a lottery. Your inching forward might vary.

jaop99 · 10-26-14, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I managed to get it working on win 8.1

What did I do?:
- install virtualbox.
- install xp there.
- install guest tools stuff.
- install the steam/dangerous waters.
- set the 3d acceleration on.
- set the few colours mode on for the game. (this allows you to use a proper cursor)

This allows me to run the game, however the 3d models do not work properly (under water objects do not render properly, only sea surface is present, there is no main water body or sea bottom).

Hi Ikalugin, if you want to see the underwater objects in 3D in your VM machine or VB, have to uncheck in the game avanced 3D options: BLEND TEXTURES (then you will see the sea floor) and CAUSTIC EFFECTS (then you will see the 3D objects)

Hope it works for your VB

07-31-14, 06:28 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,770 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ Great post __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-30-14, 03:17 PM	#1
BobbyZero Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 57 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	There is a solution if you are willing to work with Linux. I'm royally pissed for over a year now because DW doesn't work with Win 8, since that left me without one of my 5 favorite games of all time. So I decided to give it a go on Linux, since I was thinking to experiment with Ubuntu anyway, and see if it's possible to ditch Windows altogether. I installed Ubuntu 14:04 LTS to dual boot on my Windows 8.1 PC. In Ubuntu, I installed Wine (Windows emulator, you can find it easily and conveniently available in Ubuntu's built-in software center), and then installed DW through Wine. Before doing that I found an old thread here on Subsim forums about DW working in Wine, and the drawback that was emphasized in the post was that there is no sound when DW runs through Wine, and that you need to tamper with sound files in order to get them to work. Still, I gave it a go, since the mentioned post is 4 years old and Wine has since been updated many times, and lo and behold - the sound files now work without any tampering or problems! So, if you are screwed by Win 8 as I am, give Ubuntu/Wine combo a shot. EDIT: I'm talking about DW vanilla with 1.04 patch, I didn't try any mods.

08-13-14, 06:17 AM	#3
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I managed to get it working on win 8.1 What did I do?: - install virtualbox. - install xp there. - install guest tools stuff. - install the steam/dangerous waters. - set the 3d acceleration on. - set the few colours mode on for the game. (this allows you to use a proper cursor) This allows me to run the game, however the 3d models do not work properly (under water objects do not render properly, only sea surface is present, there is no main water body or sea bottom).

08-13-14, 05:27 PM	#4
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Good for you that it works. But running it in a Windows XP virtual machine does not mean that it works in Windows 8.1. The OS inside the virtual machine is a totally seperate system from the host OS. You made the game run in a simulated pc, that's all. It's still a feat if you get decent performance in it, but it does not solve the Windows 8 incompatibility.

08-14-14, 04:17 AM	#5
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Yes and I still get graphics and performance issues. Graphics issues: - in all modes/mods I get the strage morphings of under water objects and general water screw ups. Can be seen on this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=300018025 screenshot. Performance issues: - even though I have a modern CPU (with frequency well above the required one) the game appears to run out of the CPU resources for some reason (XP says that 100 percent of the CPU resources are used and game has low FPS).

08-14-14, 04:27 AM	#6
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Also - it appears to me that AI is not working as intended, Burke failed to intercept any of the sizlers I fired against him (I have fired 4 on the carrier group but they all locked onto one escort)

08-14-14, 04:34 AM	#8
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	You might want to investigate if your host CPU has hardware support for virtualization. For Intel it is called Intel VT, for AMD it is AMD-V. You may also need to enable a bios option for this. If the cpu does not have it then it has to be done in software emulation. That obviously takes more resources. Maybe there are some tweaksettings for Virtualbox. But gaming on a virtual machine is often like winning a lottery. Your inching forward might vary.